posted July 17, 2000 09:09 PM            

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A lot of you say that a first time user such as myself should stick with just DECA for the first cycle. However, there are others that say its best to use a test. in the first stack. Im getting pretty confused with all of the conflicting information. Again, I want to play it pretty safe. If 250-500 mg of the test. wouldnt (should't!) cause any severe side effects, I want to add the test also. However, If a high risk exists for such effects as hair loss, gyno with the low doses, I wouldnt add it. If anyone would like to put together a cycle(6-8 weeks) for me with deca, or deca/sust i would appriciate it greatly.

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posted July 17, 2000 09:49 PM            

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lottsa people mix deca and test becuase they work GREAT together. PLUS with a deca alone cycle, you are just asking for deca dick.

chris

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posted July 17, 2000 10:04 PM            

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You don't need to stack for your first cycle to see great results bro. Go with one or the other and save a stack for your second or even third time around. If you use the search you'll find more cycles for sust and deca than you'll know what to do with.

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posted July 17, 2000 10:08 PM            

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This is really Decaman's back yard. But I'm always going to say Deca/Test first,last and always.

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posted July 17, 2000 10:31 PM            

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Do them both!!

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posted July 17, 2000 10:49 PM         

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My 1st was deca only. Wasn't happy so added test, only 200mg/wk six weeks later and it made all the difference. Problem is bro, everyone sees different results from different gear. Sust has never done much for me but enanthate works wonders. Other guys grow on 1cc/wk of Sust.

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posted July 17, 2000 11:53 PM         

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i would say try a sust/deca/clomid cycle

anabolicextreme.com
angelfire.com/pq/profiles/
hci.net/~woodstock/woodstocks world.htm
geocities.com/~bodybuilding/STEROIDZ.htm

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posted July 17, 2000 11:58 PM            

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If I used the sust. in the cycle would 250 per week be enough? Im 5'10" 165 lb.
Something like this...
DECA SUST
400 250
400 ""
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Or could I even go lower on the deca, say 200-300 wk?
of course, clomid EOD, and end of cycle.

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posted July 18, 2000 12:04 AM            

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thats a good cycle, I may be doing a very similiar cycle pretty soon. Also for a guy your size it should be fine.

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posted July 18, 2000 12:10 AM            

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If this is your first cycle you can get away with 200-300mg of Decca per week and still see great results. I would go with a full 12 week cycle considering Decca is slow to kick in and see results with. The good thing is you will keep most of your gains as long as you continue to train and eat properly. I would also taper the Sustanon 250 up to at least 500mg per week and then taper back down.

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posted July 18, 2000 09:32 AM            

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That is very similar to my first cycle. I took one shot of test for the first 2 weeks and then upped it to 2 shots/wk for the next 3 and got into a bit of trouble with gyno (early stages, puffy nipples, added nolva and clomid and dropped the test). Also did deca at 400mg/wk tapering to 300 and 200 in the last two weeks. It turned out to be only a 7 week cycle but I gained 21 lbs and even got a couple small stretch marks. I would say do 500mg sust in the first 2 or 3 wks of the cycle and drop it to 250mg/wk for the rest of the cycle. I wouldn't taper the sust up, just down. Make sure you take clomid EOD and have nolva on hand just in case.

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