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crash_overrun
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posted July 17, 2000 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash_overrun   Click Here to Email crash_overrun     Edit/Delete Message
hi bros!
OK, did my first injection yesterday... 1cc (100mg) of PRIMO in my quad - and well, the needle an the gear went in smooth an without any pain. today my quad feels a little sore, it's like after a leg workout.

anyway... never thought that doing a injection by myself doesn't hurt - just had some fear of needles... that's gone!

I've got a question... maybe you think this is impossible, but it's like that: I had a naturally occuring gyno - cut it out with 23 (i'm 29 now). so, after doing primo yesterday, i now feel that my nipples are already very sensitive. and my chest feels like some ants are runnning over it.
well, in my opinion that's the gyno feeling... i also had this kind of feeling while trying some prohormones (androstendione) some years ageo. so my choice fpr gear was primo, since it SHOULDN'T aromatise... but I guess I'm unlucky and this stuff DOES aromatise (even at 100mg in my body).

any ideas...?

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Ice Man
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posted July 17, 2000 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
Congrats on the first shot!

If you shot Primo yesterday, I see no way it could be giving gyno symptoms this soon. I believe you are afraid, and rightfully so based on your prior experience, that you will get gyno and are therefore causing the symptoms in your own head.

Even at 300mg Primo should not be causing gyno in the average male.

Good Luck, Bro. Check with a doc and get some Novladex ASAP if you are really worried.

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crash_overrun
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posted July 17, 2000 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash_overrun   Click Here to Email crash_overrun     Edit/Delete Message
well, I guess it's not in my head... since it's not the first time having this feeling - and after doing my research on primo I never thought having troubles with gyno-effects (aromatise).

as ridiculous it sounds, but after having the gyno cut out I tried TT, Andro, Norandro, Chrysin, Ipriflavone - and all this stuff gave me the same feeling in my chest... after a very short time (+/- 1 day).

Thanks anyway...

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FitnessChick
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posted July 17, 2000 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
I think that is psychological.....primo doesnt really do that, and definitly not the next day.....as far as the shot being painless, usually oil based gear goes in a lot easier then water based.....burns less too....some soreness is normal & to be expected.

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ThePitbull
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posted July 17, 2000 10:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePitbull   Click Here to Email ThePitbull     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75689837
Even if you are that sensitive to AS. I don't think there is any way that the 1 (100mg) shot of Primo could start gyno in 1 day.

It probably hasn't even totaly dissapated from the injection site in that amount of time.

Pitbull

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Twisted_Steel
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posted July 17, 2000 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Twisted_Steel   Click Here to Email Twisted_Steel     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 754174
Pschosomatic brother, its in your head. 100mg of primo aromatising is a 1/10000 chance in happening.

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Ice Man
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posted July 17, 2000 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Crash,

The Andro-type products can cause gyno for sure. Not to be insensitive to your case, but physiologically speaking, gyno cannot get going after one day. If it's that bad, get off the gear and go natural. Good luck!

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crash_overrun
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posted July 17, 2000 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash_overrun   Click Here to Email crash_overrun     Edit/Delete Message
well, my gyno wasn't cut 100% out - the kept some fat tissue in the chest for cosmetical purpose... since the chest looks better like that (especially the nipples - if you cut everything the nipple would go inside).

OK, what do I feel... kind of heat, the nipples are more sensitive than normal, just a littel pain in my chest, and some itching all over the whole chest (like ants runnig around... funny I know).

I know, that under normal circumstances it SHOULDN'T be from the primo - but the only thing I changed since yesterday was this first injection of my first cycle (and I only took 100mg of primo to be on the save side for the first injection because I know, that I am VERY sensitive to AS).

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Ice Man
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posted July 17, 2000 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
Bro,

The only thing I can say from here, is talk to your doc. Did you get any Novladex? If you have it, take it. Wish I could help.

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Jeff_rys
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posted July 17, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
Primo does not give gyno. That does not mean your nipples cannot get sensitive. Normally does will go away in a few weeks. I have had that experience with, believe it or not, Winstrol.
But if you feel uncertain, talk to a (good)
doctor and if needed take Arimidex, certainly better than Clomid or Nolvadex, but also more expensive. He, just my opinion.

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crash_overrun
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posted July 17, 2000 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash_overrun   Click Here to Email crash_overrun     Edit/Delete Message
thanks so far for your opinions.

my next injection of PRIMO will be next sunday... until then i will observe my chest/nipples, the feeling I've got.
as far as my cycle goes I've got 2 possibilities: switching from PRIMO to WINSTROL, or taking PROVIRON with the PRIMO.

I think proviron would be better for me than nolvadex, since proviron stops the aromatise thing, while nolvadex "only" blocks the receptor (maybe a bad rebound effect after stopping the nolvadex... just a guess).

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Wesley PIPES
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posted July 17, 2000 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wesley PIPES   Click Here to Email Wesley PIPES     Edit/Delete Message
Bro, not to flame you but I think you're just paranoid.If you live in Canada, don't worry it's free for the surgery, so juice up.

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crash_overrun
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posted July 17, 2000 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crash_overrun   Click Here to Email crash_overrun     Edit/Delete Message
Wesley... well, maybe I'am a little bit too scared about the gyno. but I already had gyno and I already hat a surgery - so, ONCE is enough.

ok, the pain in my chest is already stronger than a few hours ago - like somebody is sitting on your chest, and the nipples are more than sensitive.

thanks bros for all your help so far... I'll let you know what will happen.

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