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 GLUCAPHAGE? IS IT ANY GOOD?
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gettingtoobig Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 53) |
posted July 16, 2000 07:16 PM
  
I WANT SOME OPINIONS ON THIS STUFF...IS IT WORTH TAKING OR NOT? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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IndyMan2 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 16, 2000 09:25 PM
Glucaphage lies within the same realm of oral hypoglycemics as Glipizide, glucotrol, etc. Basically, it prompts your pancreas to produce more insulin. Most people who take this are NIDDM (non-insulin dependant diabetes mellitus) patients or Type I diabetics. Not sure of the implications for lifters though...I stay away from insulin injections or anything else that can screw up natural insulin levels. If you mess with this stuff you could end up a type II diabetic for life. Then you would find yourself shooting insulin daily just to survive. IP: Logged |
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JUICESEEKER Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 270) |
posted July 16, 2000 09:30 PM
AND IF YOU BECOME DIABETIC, FORGET ABOUT EVER BEING A BODYBUILDER! YOU WILL NEVER LOOK LIKE ONE! IP: Logged |
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MONSTROSITY Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 380) |
posted July 16, 2000 09:34 PM
I used it 3 years ago, I got zero BENEFIT FROM IT. IP: Logged |
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supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted July 16, 2000 10:46 PM
Talk about giving a guy the WRONG info!! Glucophage is a drug that incrases glucose disposal in muscle tissue. It belongs to a class of drugs called bigunides (sp). IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE PANCREAS TO STIMULATE INSULIN IN ANY WAY. drugs like Metformin are used by Type II diabetics to control blood sugar levels Type II diabetics are NON-insulin dependent diabetics and have high blod sugar and insulin levels due to insulin resistance, which Glucophage (Metformin) helps treat. Glipizide & Tolinase etc. are drugs that belong to a different class of drugs, Sulfonylureas. THESE drugs do cause the pancreas to INITIALLY produce more insulin and thereby cause homogenous insulin production to slow down due to negative feedback, this resuts in lower insulin levels, less bodyfat, athereosclerosis, arteriolesclerosis, neuropathy, retinopathy etc (all are diseases caused/accelerated by high insulin levels) Short cycles with long breaks would work well for the Sulfonylureas. Glucophage can be taken daily with carb meals to enhance glucose storage in muscles (works 100x better than vandyl bullshit and chromium) NEITHER drug type can cause Type I diabetes, that is from birth or in rare cases a damaged pancreas and requires daily insulin shots. Not even straight insulin can make you a Type I diabetic, if it did then most of IFFB would need diabetic bracelets Also you can be a good bodybuilder & Type I diabetic, ever heard of or see Tim Belknap in the 80's Hope this cleared up all the mis info
"remember to engage brain beforre opening mouth!" IP: Logged |
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cockdezl Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 201) |
posted July 17, 2000 03:18 AM
SUPREME is correct. The biguanides, such as metformin, phenformin, and buformin, increase peripheral glucose disposal. They do this through reducing glucose absorption at the intestinal level, reducing hepatic gluconeogenesis, and increasing insulin sensitivity thereby decreasing insulin levels. Glucophage can have a side effect of decreasing appetite, due to the decrease in glucose absorption, so use during dieting may beneficial. IP: Logged |
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supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted July 17, 2000 08:59 AM
I forgot to add that I get good results and wicked pumps if I use 500-1000mg Metformin especially with post workout carbs It also works great after DNP cycles or carb depletion. Has anyone tried Glipizide or Tolinase???, if so how much for how long? Later IP: Logged |
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supreme Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted July 18, 2000 01:56 AM
Hey guys, has nobody tried Glipizide, Tolinase or Orinase??? I would like to know the results. Thanks! IP: Logged |
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