posted July 16, 2000 06:53 PM            

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Some of you have already read posts of mine about Liverite. It's a product made to detox your liver. They have a new product out called liverite Sports or something like that. It is specifically for (among other things) combating the effects of AS on the liver. They sell it at www.liverite.com

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posted July 16, 2000 07:55 PM            

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thanks for the info on the new product, im ordering it now.

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posted July 16, 2000 10:26 PM            

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good info bro, thanks!!!

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posted July 17, 2000 01:29 AM            

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good info...

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posted July 17, 2000 01:34 AM            

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My liver thanks you!!

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posted July 17, 2000 04:29 AM         

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LIVERTIE HAS BEEN OUT FOR OVER A YEAR, AND I'VE USED IT FOR THE DRINKING OCCASIONS. IT IS A GREAT HANGOVER MEDICINE,AND A GREAT LIVER PROTECTION. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO HAVE USED IT, HOW DOES IT COMPARE TO MILK THISTLE FOR LIVER PROTECTION?

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posted July 17, 2000 04:32 AM            

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posted July 17, 2000 05:19 AM            

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Not to burst you guys bubble, but there are NO medication, especially sold over the counter, that will help "detox" your liver!
Asked a total of three docs about this and all three laughed in my face....just trying to help out here bros...don't get taken on bunk stuff.plus ruin your life on a false promise from someone trying to make a quick buck. JUST F.Y.I.

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posted July 17, 2000 05:39 AM         

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What are the main ingrediants?

I think I would just stick with milk thistle
that way I would know im gettin the what I pay for.

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posted July 17, 2000 10:23 AM            

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Benchmaster,
You are 100% wrong! I have a family member with liver problems and have been over this stuff with liver specialists a million times. Products like Liverite and milk thistle lower liver values quickly. Many doctors will not say that they work as they have their own methods, many which are very poor. A large percentage of those with liver problems end up going with this type of product and have much better results. Your doctor is by no means a liver authority.

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posted July 17, 2000 02:42 PM            

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Most doctors knowledge of herbal supplements is very limited, and they are not going to recommend something they obviously know nothing about. All I can say is that on four different occasions my liver enzymes were elevated and after taking 800mgs of milk thistle over a month period my enzymes were normal and have been ever since.

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posted July 17, 2000 02:45 PM         

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I just got a bottle at GNC yesterday. My friend works there and got me a good deal.

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posted July 17, 2000 04:17 PM            

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Guys you can be ignorant ( no flame intended) all that you want to be...i am just trying to tell you the facts and help with what i do know.... and i do know that Milk thistle and liverite are bunk! Sorry , but that is true! Your mind is powerful..if you believe that it works for you, then it may well do it..but it is the will of you mind and not the product... a placebo effect if you will.... good luck to all of you!

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posted July 17, 2000 04:31 PM            

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lexicon...i'm with you bro. I have relatives with liver problems also and I know this shit as well.

Benchmaster....milk thistle does help...bottom line! It's actually one of the few herbs that is recognized as being directly beneficial to specific problems(ie. high liver counts)

As for the liverite, a buddy of mine bought it on a goof once for those nights of hard drinking, as he swears he feels great the next day after a night of boozing if he takes it prior to drinking. I personally have never tried it, but I do have milk thistle in the vitiman cabinet.

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posted July 17, 2000 05:21 PM         

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"Guys you can be ignorant ( no flame intended) all that you want to be...i am just trying to tell you the facts and help with what i do know...."

BENCH, you "know" the facts based on the knowledge of 3 Dr's??? Most Dr's know dick about herbal and nutritional medicine, HELL!!, most Dr's will tell you that steroids will kill you!

"and i do know that Milk thistle and liverite are bunk! Sorry , but that is true!"

No, that is your opinion based on the knowledge of 3 M.D.'s. I have no knowledge of the efficacy of Liverite, but you need to look on Pubmed for abstracts on silymarin (Milk Thistle).

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posted July 17, 2000 06:57 PM            

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I don't know about liverite because I've never heard of it before but as far as Milk thistle is concerned I do. It has been found in countless studies to lower liver values and protect the liver from damage. Milk thistle and evening primrose oil both are good help for the liver and I challenge anyone to refute this with scientific proof. By the way you only lose your credibility when you say things that everyone knows are not true. Not a flame , just a thought for the day.

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posted July 17, 2000 07:02 PM            

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Benchmaster,

In some ways I agree, but doc's do not study over the counter products, so how would they know

Common sense on something. Take NIACIN for instance. It will dilate your veins when taken in twice the recommended dose( not what do you call that angeoplasty(SP). why would a doc want you to take a $10. bottle of niacin over the counter when he could charge your ins co $15,000 for and angeoplasty?

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posted July 17, 2000 08:03 PM            

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Thanks for the post. I checked out thier site . It sounds pretty good to me. Its claimed to work better than milk t. I'll pick some up on sat. and give it a shot. OOPS, I mean try it.

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posted July 17, 2000 08:31 PM            

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Only question I have is that is it actually better than milk thistle? How the hell can we tell the difference? Also what is good for the kidneys?

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posted July 17, 2000 08:36 PM         

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I've been taking Cranberry Juice Extract/Concentrate capsules and Saw Palmetto and my kidneys don't hurt near as often anymore.

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posted July 17, 2000 08:46 PM            

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Thanks for the link....Interesting!!!

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posted July 18, 2000 12:53 AM         

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Glutathione is a chemical the body uses to eliminate certain toxins through the liver. Milk thistle contains Slymarin which acts as a glutathione sparer. I can locate the research articles on this if someone really wants to bust a nut over it (I believe there are actually sevaral in the journal of the american medical assocaition and the New England J of Medicine)

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posted July 18, 2000 01:55 PM            

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Bump, because our liver would want us to.

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posted July 18, 2000 02:34 PM            

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you got it NOVICEJUICER! The silymarin in milk thisle helps to support glutathione production. Milk thisle has also been used by individuals to treat cirrosis. Sorry benchmaster I think we will stick to the milk thisle and have a healthy liver, just dont come crying when you have liver problems from AS.

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posted July 18, 2000 02:50 PM            

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I am 100% sure that milk thistle helps lower liver values. Many people who had no success with medical treatment for bad livers swear by it. Liverite is also a very good product. The new "Sports" product by them is aimed directly at people like us. I think you would be crazy not to use it. Go for one of their package deals and use the basic product (Liverite) daily and use the sports type when using AS. Buy it through the web site as it's much cheaper than most stores. Also, I haven't seen the sports model at stores anyway.

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posted July 18, 2000 09:01 PM            

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never taken milk thistle...but i will. i had it in my cabinet but was lazy to take it , but now i see you guys are saying it works so i'll take it

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posted July 19, 2000 06:06 AM            

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Like i said before.. you guys will believe what you will..hell some believe that pro hormones...androstenedione and dhea work, ginsing,, etc.... If it works for you, hey, i'm for it! I would like to see any medical proof that it works.... and by the way several years of college and medical school.......dumb ass doctors don't know anything, i guess..... if anyone has any medical lit. on this as working to help your liver, especially while on the JUICE..... I would like to see it...My doctors are very informed specialist in sports med. and know very well the True effects of steroids and their use....I know i will never change your mind about this and i never intended to do so.just giving you info from what was told to me...Lift hard bros..and most of all keep your health!

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posted July 19, 2000 04:31 PM            

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Bump to make sure all the bro's and gal's take care of there liver.

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posted July 19, 2000 11:36 PM            

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Bump!!! I think I will try Liverite!
Thanx!
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