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flaco
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 16, 2000 06:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for flaco   Click Here to Email flaco     Edit/Delete Message

Hey bro's I know this subject has been beaten to death but I can't figure out what I should do. should I do the sust deca d-bol cycle for my first real cycle or should I just do deca only and save my sust and d-bol for later. Or maybe deca and d-bol. I want to put on some pounds and keep them. My logic is this...
my receptors are clean so I should respond well to deca only. Alot of people say to not use test your first cycle because you won't repond to it as well later. I also want to make the most out my first cycle. I figured, since deca is not known for sides on moderate dosages I should'nt need clomid, so I can save it for my sust d-bol cycle later. also whats the minimum test you can use to combat deca dick? I'm 20, 5' 11" 194lbs. Sorry so long post. Thanx!!!!

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Gettinhard
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 16, 2000 06:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gettinhard   Click Here to Email Gettinhard     Edit/Delete Message
Bro,

you are about the same size as me and i am looking at getting some good gains from this cycle....i will start 2nd week of aug...i finally got all the gear i am just trying to drop BF down about 2% before i start....
dbol sus250 primo depot

wk 1 40mg/day ----------------------
wk 2 40mg/day-------------------------
wk3 35mg/day 750mg------------------
wk4 30mg/day 750mg------------------
wk5 25mg/day 750mg------------------
wk6 20mg/day 750mg------------------
wk7 --------- 500mg----------400mg----
wk8 ----------500mg----------400mg---
wk9-------------500mg 400mg
wk10 ---------- 500mg 300mg
wk11---------------------------300mg
wk12---------------------------300mg
i will use clomid at about week 6 at 50mg eod until week 11 i will increase to 50mg a day wk 12 will be 100mg a day then for 2 weeks i will take 50mg eod...i have some nolva just in case.

i think this is a good one for mass and solid gains i have been planning it for a while...

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JSNAKE33
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 16, 2000 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JSNAKE33   Click Here to Email JSNAKE33     Edit/Delete Message
Using Deca only might just infact lead to a bit of the "deca dick"... I would still use clomid, it ain that expensive-- its worth it... Gettinhard looks like he has got a good cycle goin there, read around and do what you think is best.... Peace ~~~~~~SNAKE

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gearface
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posted July 16, 2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
Gettin hard, don't do the 6th week of you dbol.You don't really need to taper sust so leave it 750 all the way through and you can have the last week at 500. And I think you should start the primo keep it at 300 and start it a week erlier as it takes primo a lil while to kick in.Later.

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Gettinhard
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posted July 16, 2000 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gettinhard   Click Here to Email Gettinhard     Edit/Delete Message
Gearface,,,,,

yoou think i should cut the dbol earlier?
i was thinking of the primo at 300 and running it another week but i hear alot of people say spike it earlier...give me your theories on these recomendations,,,,i appreciate the knowledge,,,theories help me understand reccomendations make me wonder..

thanks bro

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gearface
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posted July 16, 2000 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
Well the dbol is debateable. Alot of people say 5 weeks because sides and because it is toxic on the liver,plus most of your gains are made within those 5 weeks.Thus this is not the case with everyone. SSman did refb all through his cycle if i remember correctly and it did wonders along with the sust. I doubt one week will make too much of a difference so you can do either way. If you feel it is best at 6 weeks then by all means do six weeks. I am by no means a dbol expert.As for the sust,take the advice in my other post, you wil be happy you did. If you want you can spike the primo in the beginning but I think you should extend it 2 weeks.

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