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Tuna Guy
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 62)
posted July 16, 2000 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tuna Guy   Click Here to Email Tuna Guy     Edit/Delete Message
Lads. I have been on the board for about 6 months and am trying to organise my first cycle. The info i am getting is top stuff, however i am a little confused about which cycle to use.
Cycle 1
week/deca/sus
1***400***500
2 "
3 "
4 "
5 "
6 "
7 "
8 "
Cycle 2
week/deca/sus
1****400**500
2 "
3 "
4 "
5 "
6****200**250
7 "
8 "
Cycle3
week/deca/sus
1***400***500
2"
3"
4"
5"
6"
7primo 400mg/week
8"
9"
10"
Clomid to be used during and after cycle.
Why is it necessary to taper the dosage when sus is self tapering. Deca does not aromatise to much so cycle 2 seems a little strange. In my own possibly misguided opinion the last cycle seems to be the best. Put on the mass in the first 6 weeks and then use the primo to hold it and as such a small dosage wont interfere with my own test production the primo is ideal. Any opinions would be appreciated.

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The Dude
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 16, 2000 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Dude   Click Here to Email The Dude     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting post, I'd like to hear some knowledgable opinions on this too.

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Decaman
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 16, 2000 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
You want to do it right or wrong? Staying on deca for 6 weeks is useless for the last time. Start your deca at 200, second week go to 400 stay there until week 10, taper down weeks 11 and 12, or you can go 10 weeks total start the taper in week 9 as far as the sus, you already have the right idea, I would stay on that 10 weeks too. As far as your third cycle with the primo not interfereing with your test production, what the hell do you think the deca and sus did the 6 weeks before? Your test production is already shut down bro. Take clomid eod during the cycle. you can add the primo at the end of the sus and deca with some winny for 6 weeks , now you have a good 4 month cycle. Nice, good luck bro.
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Pup'nIrn
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 16, 2000 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pup'nIrn   Click Here to Email Pup'nIrn     Edit/Delete Message
I agree you must stretch deca out a little more for results. Deca is very slow acting and produces good solid gains so it is a good choice as a base. I personally would start off with 600mg the 1-3 then taper down to 400mg for 4-6 then 200mg 7-10. The sust is self tapering in that it does leave your system is a slower more controlled method but I still would taper to reduce the side effects with a test product. This is just an idea....I really do like small cycles like you describe but I do think they must be more agressive to yeild the results you want in the short time. You could through some d-bol in on top of those lighter 6 wk cycles and do fine.

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Vlad67
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posted July 16, 2000 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vlad67   Click Here to Email Vlad67     Edit/Delete Message
...this being your first cycle I would be cautious about the deca-dick side using these two together..... seperatly those two AS dont effect me but if I take them together im fucked... or not fucked...
sust is my favorite.. i would use a primo / equipoise with it rather than deca

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