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nutrimuscle
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 15, 2000 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutrimuscle   Click Here to Email nutrimuscle     Edit/Delete Message
DECA SUST250

1 200mg 500mg
2 300 500
3 300 500
4 400 500
5 400 500
6 300 500
7 300 250
8 200 250
clomid EOD throughout cycle
and every day for a week after cycle

What do you guys think?

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matty
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posted July 15, 2000 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
LOOKS ALRIGHT, I THINK THE SUS IS SELF TAPERING THOUGH! SHOULD GET SOME DECENT GAINS OFF THIS CYCLE IF ITS YOUR 1ST! GOOD LUCK KEEP US POSTED.....

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E M T
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posted July 15, 2000 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E M T   Click Here to Email E M T     Edit/Delete Message
Doesn't look too bad bro. Just make sure to take in a lot of protien.

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Unity66
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posted July 15, 2000 10:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unity66   Click Here to Email Unity66     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70960516
Not a bad first cycle. Id go longer on the clomid though. 100mg/day-50mg/day two weeks post cycle...three weeks after your last shot of sauce. 2-cent guys opinion.

Unity66

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adamsandlr
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posted July 15, 2000 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adamsandlr   Click Here to Email adamsandlr     Edit/Delete Message
i would just keep the deca at 400mg the whole time personally. I never taper it

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sour jerk
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posted July 15, 2000 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sour jerk   Click Here to Email sour jerk     Edit/Delete Message
no comment....
sourjerkkkkk????? ? ?? ???? ? ? ? ?? ? ? ??
read my other posts.....

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Decaman
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posted July 15, 2000 10:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
I give up, again with the low deca dosages. once more 200 first week-400 after that, i would taper the last 2 weeks and I would stay on DECA FOR TWELVE WEEKS

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adamsandlr
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posted July 15, 2000 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for adamsandlr   Click Here to Email adamsandlr     Edit/Delete Message
i always have used it for 12 weeks decaman I agree with you. These low dosages are driving me nuts on here

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WCP
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posted July 16, 2000 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
This is not a flame to you bro at all so dont take it that way..but I agree the sissy cycles are getting annoying.

Dont taper the sust, start high with the deca and taper it. Clomid eod throughout the cycle.

Again this was not anything toward you bro..so dont take it that way.

later,
WCP

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bgriff
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posted July 16, 2000 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
yea bro you dont need to tapper the sust!!

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nutrimuscle
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posted July 16, 2000 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutrimuscle   Click Here to Email nutrimuscle     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the feedback. As most of you can tell, im a newbie at this. ive done a little research on the 2 roids I picked; however, I like to hear word of mouth whats best to do. I may be on a "sissy" cycle, but im playing it safe--no matter how much gain I comprimise. I WILL gain a lot from that cycle, i believe.
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WCP
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posted July 16, 2000 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Bro, 500mgs of sust for a first cycle will do amazing things to your body...just make sure your training and diet is in total check...

As I stated before, that wasnt a flame toward you personally, it was merely an observation.

later,
WCP

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2Thick
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posted July 16, 2000 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
That is too heavy for a 1st cycle.

If you want 10-15 quality pounds then use Deca alone. If you really want to use test then change it to a 6 week cycle like this:

DECA SUST250
1 200mg 500mg
2 300 500
3 400 500
4 400 500
5 300 500
6 200 500


That way you can start another cycle after only two months of rest.

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nutrimuscle
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posted July 16, 2000 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutrimuscle   Click Here to Email nutrimuscle     Edit/Delete Message
I was thinking about doing 1 7-8 week cycle and then calling it quits. I want to gain 20-30 lbs lean muscle. I dont want to keep using the gear for long periods of time--just one cycle (hopefully!). Would that 6 week cycle you mentioned still be the best way to go, or should I stick with the 7-8 wek cycle?

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StrongForLife
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posted July 16, 2000 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StrongForLife   Click Here to Email StrongForLife     Edit/Delete Message
20-30 lbs of lean muscle tissue in one cycle?

are you out of your mind?

At that rate, you would have more quality muscle than Dorian Yates by Halloween.

Get real

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rippazoid
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posted July 16, 2000 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with 2thick you dont really need test for your first cycle. maybe a little dball instead but 250mg a week would be plenty of sus for a newbie if you must take it.

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted July 16, 2000 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
for first cycle I would go with just deca or equipoise. u really push the sides, hairloss high bp, once u throw test in the mix. second cycle I would do deca/d-bol, then for third cycle start hitting the test heavy.

LP

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oubeta
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posted July 16, 2000 03:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oubeta   Click Here to Email oubeta     Edit/Delete Message
I would stay a 400mg for another week with the deca, even if it means you have to drop ro 200mg on week 7..Looks like a winning cycle.

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CornFed
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posted July 16, 2000 03:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CornFed   Click Here to Email CornFed     Edit/Delete Message
I did the exact same cycle...But just keep it at 500 mg of sust the last two weeks. And make sure your deca is at least as high as you havee it... 30 lbs of muscle is a lot to expect in one cycle though...

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nutrimuscle
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posted July 17, 2000 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutrimuscle   Click Here to Email nutrimuscle     Edit/Delete Message
Alot of you are saying I dont need the Sust 250 on my first cycle. Sust 250 adds a lot of side effects, even at low doses of 250-500mg/week? If I used DECA alone, should i got on a 6 week cycle, or make it longer. From my standpoint I want to be safe, but im willing to accept a little risk in order to make bigger gains. if 250 mg of sust 250 wont be likely to do much, i will take it also. Advice please.

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Lqdmscle
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posted July 17, 2000 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message
Too hard for your first cycle. I would do no more than 250mg of sus and 100mg of deca per week.

You need to start low. Your body needs to adjust. If you start at a high dose, then your body will adapt to it. You'll need to use massive amounts in the future.

When you start high, you'll make quick gain. If you start small and work your way up, you won't face a yo-yo syndome.

A lot of people fall into this more is better. When in return, they plateau quick. And then you see them barely making progress 2 years from now.

So, start small and increase as you go.

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The Ranger
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posted July 17, 2000 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
6 week cycle 2Thick???
Horseshit Bro...deca is great stuff...but, it's better with test....cycle looked fine to me...I like dbol for the first 4 weeks, and I agree with WCP...start the deca high, and taper...let the test run two weeks longer...clomid EOD, and post cycle...get huge!!

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