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Yoda
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 15, 2000 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, Im just completing my 4th week on a Omnadren/D-bol/Deca/Clomid cycle. I'll post the cycle at the end, but in a nutshell the first 4 weeks were 750mg/week Omna, 40,35,30mg/day of d-bol and 1 Clomid EOD. I havent gained much, if anything at all. I had a problem with a stomach virus the first week, between throwing up and the runs could'nt keep anything in me and lost 7lbs. I've regained the 7lbs and a few more but not much in the way off alot of size. I'm eating 3500-4000 cals/day, 300-350 gr of protein, 1-2 gals of water,2 daily vitamins/minerals, use some L-Glutamine, whey powder and added a weight gainer to up the calories. I am getting stronger on every lift and unbelievable pumps but where is the muscle. WTF, I had high hopes for this cycle. I guess reading SSMAN'S updates got me all excited, I'm not getting anything compared to him. I have had experience with gear in the past, alot of single drug cycles and most recently a Deca/D-bol cycle about 4 years ago. I guess my question is: Is it too soon to be looking for big things from this cycle????? I could have gotten bigger using creatine for 4 weeks and I know I've gotten better results from other cycles. I do know the gear is legit, got it from 3 different sources. It passes the freezer test(clouds), the taste test(numbs my tongue),pain test(Injections leave me painful) and I gave some to an experienced Bro to look at for me and he confirmed their good. Any ideas guys??? Here's the cycle!!!

week....sust.....dbol......clomid....deca
1..............750mg...40mg/day
2..............750mg...35mg/day.....50mg e/o/d
3..............750mg...35mg/day.....50mg e/o/d
4..............750mg...30mg/day.....50mg e/o/d
5..............500mg...30mg/day.....50mg e/o/d......400mg
6..............500mg...20mg/day.....50mg e/o/d......400mg
7..............500mg..........................50mg e/o/d.......400mg
8..............500mg..........................50mg e/o/d.......400mg
9.....................................................50mg e/o/d.......400mg
10..............................................................................300mg
11..............................................................................200mg
12..............................................................................200mg
13..................................................50mg/day
14..................................................100mg/day
15..................................................50mg/day

[This message has been edited by Yoda (edited July 15, 2000).]

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glazed_donutz
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posted July 15, 2000 09:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glazed_donutz   Click Here to Email glazed_donutz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 52939896
well it seems that the cycle looks real good did your homework now for the gaines probably the flu had alot to do with that but hang in there hopefully things will pane out.....

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BP66
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posted July 15, 2000 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BP66   Click Here to Email BP66     Edit/Delete Message
Bump for Yoda. Sorry I can't really help you bud, you've got more experience than I do. Hopefully somebody will be able to provide some useful insight.

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slabcat
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posted July 15, 2000 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slabcat   Click Here to Email slabcat     Edit/Delete Message
Sust should really kick in this week of your cycle or the next. It's odd that with the d-bol you're using you haven't gained size even if you were sick for a week you'd think you should have seen something from it by now. You usually notice gains from d-bol in the second week. Good Luck Bro!

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ANVIL222
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posted July 16, 2000 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ANVIL222   Click Here to Email ANVIL222     Edit/Delete Message
I HAD THE SAME PROBLEM BEFORE. IT WAS ALL CALORIE BASED. TRY AT LEAST 6000 CALS.
I'AM UP 1O LBS 2'ND WEEK OF CYCLE EATING APP. 6500 CALS. IT'S A SHITLOAD OF CALS. BUT IT'S STARTING TO WORK.

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Yoda
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posted July 16, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the advice so far. As for the calories, I'm home on medical leave from my job and dont get much activity, my metabolism has slowed to a crawl and its hard to almost impossible to eat 3500 calories a day, there's no way I'm going to get 6000 down. Its getting to the point that I cant even choke down the Weight Gainer drinks. I know the calories are important and this is the first time in my life I've had problems eating, believe me. I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet and try harder. Seems I didn't have this much trouble with the deca/D-bol cycle I did last time. Any other Vets want to weigh in on this one????

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BigWh1tey
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posted July 16, 2000 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWh1tey   Click Here to Email BigWh1tey     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75900860
im dieting on 3000kcal a day . Im with Anvil if your trying to put on size you have to eat ! Your body cant produce muscle mass out of air . EAT EAT EAT EAT then EAT some more , it can be like work , but is you want the muscle ....
Also some B complex vitamins might help you appetite .

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Yoda
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posted July 16, 2000 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Bump, I need more input guys.

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BP66
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posted July 16, 2000 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BP66   Click Here to Email BP66     Edit/Delete Message
Bump for Yoda

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Lqdmscle
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posted July 17, 2000 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message
First you need to take clomid out of this cycle completely. DON'T TAKE THE CLOMID!!! I know this sounds stupid to most people. But clomid will not work with this cycle. Take HCG one week after your last cycle. 1 each week for 2 or 3 weeks depending on your nuts size.

What was your previous dosage of deca/dbol?

Don't worry about the amount of calories as long as its good quality calories like mostly protein. I would take it easy on the supplement. Dbol is enough for your liver already.

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Yoda
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posted July 18, 2000 12:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Remove the Clomid???? Hows that going to help? Anyway, I ran out about 2 weeks ago and the new stuff hasn't arrived yet so I haven't taken any in a while and I'm still not growing. Also, its been 2 weeks without the Clomid and my balls haven't shrunk yet, should I start worrying about fake Omnas now??

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Lqdmscle
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posted July 18, 2000 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lqdmscle   Click Here to Email Lqdmscle     Edit/Delete Message
Sustanon works great for the first time. Anyone will tell you that. The second time won't work as well. From my experience, sus is the only one that does this. You either need to use massive amount or stop and take your hcg or clomid. Then start a completely different chemical combination.

As you stated, it did not work. Which means you hit a plateau or you body is used to the chemicals.

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Yoda
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posted July 18, 2000 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
This is the first time I used Sustanon/Omnadren!!!! Never used it before so I cant be "USED" to it. I have used D-bol before, a couple times and always get something out of a cycle of it. This is why I'm having a problem making any sense of this, everything is pointing to fakes, even though I got this shit from 3 different sources.

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DRCandyMan
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posted July 18, 2000 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRCandyMan   Click Here to Email DRCandyMan     Edit/Delete Message
Hey bro!! Give it another week or two. I think the virus set you back. Take away the time you were out due to the virus and you are actually on week 3. I know how you are feeling!!!! Just keep doing what you are doing, eat, and train like hell. I have known guys that didn't sprout up until there 6th week on Sus. My first thought was to cut the clomid...but I don't know if that would make a difference. Like I said...I think it's the virus, putting you a week off schedule

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