posted July 15, 2000 01:43 PM            

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I want to thank everyone for all of the great advise that is posted. Usually I just read and don't want to bother everyone as most of my questions are answered if I just get off my ass and search a little bit. I do have a question that I could not find anything on however. I have found what seems to be a great source for a GHB substitute but I am concerned about the contents. It has the butylene glycol as the substitute, which I am cool with, as well as other coloring and such. One ingredient that I am concerned about is propylparaben. I have researched it and it is used in a lot of skin cream type products. The company I have ordered from is marketing everything as an "organic ink jet cleaner" (love the FDA)and I am actually concerned that this product may not be ok for consumption. Does anyone know anything about propylparaben??? Thanks again for all the help to everyone!!!!!

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posted July 15, 2000 04:13 PM            

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I have no clue what that is or how to say it, but you can still buy though supplement companies legit GHB alternatives. Inner G is one that I use all the time during contest training, you must be careful with it, but it can help reduce water and give you a good bar buzz, just gotta use your head.
goto Http://www.UndergroundSupplements.com

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posted July 15, 2000 04:19 PM            

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I was looking for good source of organic cleaner for my printer cartridges.. Does any one have an office supply store they trust?

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posted July 15, 2000 05:17 PM            

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look for VERVE 5.0

chris

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posted July 15, 2000 07:58 PM            

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All I know is that butendiol is the shit. If that's what your source is selling buy it, you'll love it! Maybe you should do search for propylparaben. Haven't we discussed this somwhere before?

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posted July 15, 2000 08:27 PM            

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Butendiole does kick ass, but GBL rules the universe. Now, if only I could find some salt....

Puc

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posted July 15, 2000 08:29 PM            

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Well,

I just ordered some verve 5.0.. to clean up my ummmm.. Oh yeah, clean my old printer cartridges... thats it, yeah.. I'll be sure to let you guys know it's a good deal.

Thx bro

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posted July 15, 2000 08:32 PM            

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Do a search for Somato Pro...I know that it was just recently made illegal, but some places might still be selling it. I think the shit works almost as good as GHB and you don't have to worry too much about the dosage...just my opinion though

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posted July 15, 2000 09:56 PM            

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Check out these sites if you wanna buy real GHB.
http://framelogic.planetclick.com/framelogic/frameset.pl?gosite=http%3A%2F%2Fghb-sal es.com
http://framelogic.planetclick.com/framelogic/frameset.pl?gosite=http%3A%2F%2Fvi talchemistry.com

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posted July 15, 2000 11:18 PM            

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have you ever ordered from those guys hercules?

testosterone..it makes a man out of bitches..
literally..
sourjerkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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posted July 16, 2000 12:35 AM            

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You can not order from thise sites if you live in the U.S.........wish you could!!!post on this thread if you know where to get GHB/GBL or Pre-cursors...

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posted July 16, 2000 12:45 AM            

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Email me.
I would post where to get it but it may be considered posting a source.
They will sell to US.
I have ordered with good results. The order was 3 weeks. They said it should have been 2 so they were going to send me another package out. I got it the next day and kindly emailed them and told them that it had come in. It just seemed like the right thing to do.
Well. I mixed the stuff up. The ph came out perfect. The stuff tastes bad though! Like straight salt. It also has a slight tingle on my tounge.
I don't even measure how many grams I consume, I just take a mouthful before I go to bed and it gradualy makes me sleepy. Its not as dangerous as it sounds. Just make sure you start off with a little and give it at least 45 minutes before you decide that wasn't enough....
You should supplement w/ potassum to get its full anabolic effect...

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posted July 16, 2000 02:57 AM            

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Thanks for all of the info. I agree that verve or some of the others are great, but the main reason that I want to know if my stuff is ok is that it has the same amount of butanediol as those, but it only costs $40 vers the $120 for verve. Anyone else have any info on about propylparaben???

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posted July 16, 2000 11:37 AM            

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A friend told me about this site , it may be of interest to you.
www.ceri.com

A list of sources may be found on this site, international and national.

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posted July 17, 2000 12:01 AM         

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Please be careful with the dosages. Some one above said he takes a mouthfull before he goes to bed. If I took a mouthfull of my stuff before I went to bed I would probably wake up around christmas. Good stuff but be careful.

Peace

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posted July 17, 2000 12:05 AM         

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Please be careful!!!! All of these substances and their analogs are now Controlled I drugs in the US (Federal) So getting caught importing is a SERIOUS charge-Trust me I know the hard way.

J

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posted July 17, 2000 10:38 AM            

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one mistake ---

I would email, but none in your profile, so I'll ask here...

Could you please elucidate???

Did you get nailed by the FDA on import or did you get busted with a tubo'g' selling it to kids at a rave????

If you can't post for probation reasons, its cool, i was just curious...

Puc

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posted July 17, 2000 02:43 PM            

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I have what might be a dumb question, but i don't pretend to know much about GHB, is the GHB that EAS sells in pill form the same as what we are talking about here? I heard it was illegal but i still see it in the GNC all the time...whats the story..?

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posted July 17, 2000 02:50 PM         

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Flex, if that post was not a joke, then you are confusing HMB (EAS) with GHB, two totally different compunds.

HMB is labeled as a "protein breakdown supressor" althogh most forum members would agree that it's a waste of money.

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posted July 17, 2000 02:52 PM            

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Im an idiot, disregard my last post, im thinking of HMB by EAS , sorry for my ignorance, ill stick to steroids..he he

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posted July 17, 2000 02:57 PM            

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Not that you are not correct, but are you seeing HMB and thinking about GHB, maybe, because if it is really GHB I might want the name of your local GNC.....!!!!!!!!

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posted July 17, 2000 05:08 PM            

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Any websites with some good info/research on this stuff? Iam intersested in it but I wanna know the facts first.

Digga

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posted July 17, 2000 07:39 PM            

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drop me an e-mail. I'll help you out.

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posted July 17, 2000 11:38 PM         

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PUC- I got caught up in a tangled web of a conspireacy for MDMA,but I run and promote after hrs. and rave type events so I'm REALLY up on the current laws. As of mar1st GHB,GBL,1,4 Butaindiol is ALL control I items.My buddy makes En-Liven some I see the BS 1st hand. Heads up!!!

J

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