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Stew Meat
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posted July 15, 2000 10:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stew Meat   Click Here to Email Stew Meat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 25417919
Whats the deal about Dan saying that winny is basicly worthless and that he knows no one who has made gains with it...
I read that in the "Underground Steroid Handbook."

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted July 15, 2000 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
I guess that was Dan's opinion of winny. I think you'll find that most have a different opinion of the drug.

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travis45
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posted July 15, 2000 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for travis45   Click Here to Email travis45     Edit/Delete Message
I don't care what anyone says. My friend was a small guy and took a winny only cycle. He gained 15 to 20 pounds and was ripped as hell. I think it depends on the person though b/c I don't know of many people that get those results.

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Hercules
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posted July 15, 2000 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hercules   Click Here to Email Hercules     Edit/Delete Message
Your friend made pretty good gains off a winny only cycle Travis. I have to tell you that what he took was not real winny it was suspension because there is no way you could gain 20 lbs. off of just winny.

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Roy Batty
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posted July 15, 2000 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
Dan was wrong about winstrol and he was wrong about some other shit too(usenic acid for example). But he was a great little alchemist, and had balls, BIG balls.

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homewrecker
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posted July 15, 2000 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for homewrecker     Edit/Delete Message
Travis,
My friend too gained like fifteen pounds off of a Winstrol Depot only Cycle, which I thought was really fishy. I was skeptical when his bench was increasing like crazy and he startred blowing up like crazy. When we had a Lab Assay done on it, it turned out to be Testosterone Aqueous!! Like suspension!

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JohnnyO
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posted July 15, 2000 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyO   Click Here to Email JohnnyO     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11976789
.. hopefully someone will step forward and fill Dan's shoes.. he might have been wrong about some things, but he's one of the few that would do the cutting edge research and fight for a cause.

I hope one day I will know 1/10th of what Dan did.

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mightydog
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posted July 15, 2000 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mightydog   Click Here to Email mightydog     Edit/Delete Message
Travis45, big and ripped? I like the sound of that. I think i'll try winny on my next cycle. I'm tired of coming off cycle and feeling like a lethargic fat fuck. Is it expensive?

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Jeff_rys
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posted July 15, 2000 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
When I stopped with my Primo cycle (8 weeks 300 mgr/week,then 4 weeks with 400 mgr/week), clean for 4 weeks after and started with Winnie, only 50 mgr EOD, last 3 weeks 200 mgr/week, I didn't gain one pound over the Primo. I admit not have taken any protein.

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Jeff

Don't look back, life is too short

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Decaman
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posted July 15, 2000 12:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
I saw whre dan wrote that, and was suprised myself. I have been on winny for a long time now 14 or 15 weeks at 150 mg a week. Without eating many carbs I am stonger than ever bench , legs everything is up 20 30 40 lbs. So I def. disagree with what he said. As far as weight gain I have not gained anything on winny, but then again I am not eating for size, I am trying to get ripped and on that end the shit is awesome.

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DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER

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shmucko
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posted July 15, 2000 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmucko   Click Here to Email shmucko     Edit/Delete Message
I think Dan in his later years felt if you weren't doing a gram of test a week you were wasting your time and money. He probably thought for the results Winny was just not worth a damn.

I think different people have different goals, and in some people's cases winny will give them what they desire, not a gram of test. To each his own.

[This message has been edited by shmucko (edited July 15, 2000).]

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300 kleen
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posted July 15, 2000 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
Everyone has different opinions and experiences. That's what makes this game fun.

Maybe Dan thought that there were other AS's that would do a better job than winny, for certain applications. That doesn't mean it doesn't work.

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musclegear
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posted July 15, 2000 07:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclegear   Click Here to Email musclegear     Edit/Delete Message
If you read chapter 11 of his book "Underground Steroid Handbook II" he says Growth Hormone is worthless as well. For me HGH helped me break the genetic barrier and I would have to totally disagree with him on the topic. Winstrol is awesome for cutting and STRENGTH. I do agree with Dan that it is idiotic for women to take winstrol when there are other anabolics out there that won't clitoral enlargement, deepening of the voice, virilization, etc....

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sour jerk
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posted July 15, 2000 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sour jerk   Click Here to Email sour jerk     Edit/Delete Message
dan said winny sucks for mass,and hes damn right winny does shit for mass,if youre gaining of winny it aint winny,and as far as winny ripping you up and hardening your shit up and filling you out blah blah blah..i think thats debatable as well...i mean when theres test,why fuck with any thing else,that shit will give you size and get you ripped if used correctly..people always think oh im on a diet ditch the test get some primo winny and anavar,bullcrap!!! when dieting test allows for much more calories to be consumed and you may even gain lbm,so why bother with all the rest it doesnt make sense..
sourjerkkkkkk

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musclegear
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posted July 15, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclegear   Click Here to Email musclegear     Edit/Delete Message
You're obviously doing too much test to even discuss other options such as decca, primobolan depot, masteron, HGH, etc... I've read 4 post from you so far sourjerk and I'm pretty sure you cursed your head off in all of them. I would suggest you lay off the test! lol BTW, nandrolone decanoate (decca) will make a lot of sense to you when you have to stop juicing due to an injury and all those gains go by by. As for me, I'll keep taking HGH, Equipoise, and Decca with my testosterone.

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sour jerk
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posted July 15, 2000 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sour jerk   Click Here to Email sour jerk     Edit/Delete Message
lol!! musclegear i guess i just believe in the power of test ive never seen any other drug work even close to test..hgh is good though if you can afford it....
sourjerkkkkkk??????? ?? ???? ? ? ??

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gymkid
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posted July 15, 2000 08:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gymkid     Edit/Delete Message
winny only works for many people. i know of a few people who have gained 10 solid lbs from 10cc. i know it doesnt sound right but i have seen it first hand. -gymkid

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BigWh1tey
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posted July 16, 2000 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWh1tey   Click Here to Email BigWh1tey     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75900860
.... also when dan wrote that book , almost everything ( AS ) was available to the body building community , my point being , when given all the options , winny wasnt the best one ( also i think he was referring to oral winny tabs specifically , but i havent seen that book in 10 years at least ) .
I personally like winny-v not osme much for making gains but rather for hardening and maintaining after a high androgen cycle .

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Krusher
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posted July 16, 2000 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
My first cycle was a winny only (150mg for 10 weeks) and I gained about 7lbs of dense muscle, lost 10lbs of fat, good strength gains, zero sides, and retained everything..in fact, my gains kept coming for about 3 weeks post cycle. IMHO, nothing beats winny when it comes to retaining gains.
Too bad about the high price.

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marky
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posted July 16, 2000 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marky     Edit/Delete Message
Dan Duchaine once wrote that he believed some people have a special affinity for Stanazolol and that those would get outstanding gains. Personally winny is the best for hardness and cuts.

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