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Stew Meat
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 14, 2000 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stew Meat   Click Here to Email Stew Meat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 25417919
I'm 5'11 210 lbs, very lean. This is my first "serious" cycle. I played around w/ deca last summer, only did 1 10cc bottle of Organon Nandralone over 4 wks. Remember, this is really my FIRST cycle of gear (virgin receptors).
Deca*Sust*D-bol*Primo*clomid*HCG*Proviron
1. 100**250
2. 200**500
3. 200**500
4. 300**500*********************25/d
5. 300**500**20**100************25/d
6. 400**500**30**100**EOD*******50/d
7. 300*******30**200**EOD*******25/d
8. 300*******20**300**EOD*******15/d
9. 200*******15**200**EOD***********
10. **************100**ED***1500iuM/T
11. *******************ED***1500iuM/T
12. *******************ED************


Anybody got any ideas about how to keep more of my gains? I cycled the proviron in there at the time that I thought I'd need it most. I'm still going to a have a little nolvadex on hand just in case. How much nolv do I need to stock do you think?
I'm gonna post this a few times during the day to get everyone's opinion. Feel free to take away, add or critique...

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If at first you don't succeed...
Try it again and don't puss out this time...


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D007
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posted July 14, 2000 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
start high and taper with deca and omnas. start d-bol week one to jumpstart gains.

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el cubano
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posted July 14, 2000 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for el cubano   Click Here to Email el cubano     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 61265596
Again, as I said in the last cycle post, those dosages are way to low to get any appreciable results. You should be maxing out the deca in the middle with at least 600mg's. The sust should be at 500mg's every weak. I recommend taking the dbol for the first 6 weeks of the cycle. Start out high at 6 tabs per day and then taper down to 3 per day by week 6.

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The Cuban


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Stew Meat
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posted July 14, 2000 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stew Meat   Click Here to Email Stew Meat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 25417919
I'm not going to start out that high!
I may not be an expert but I know that I don't need that kind of stimulation right now. You seem to be the only one that thinks 600mgDeca/wk is beneficial. I'll try your cycle after I've been jucin' for several years. I'm just scared to jump into that much juice while I'm just starting off. Thanks for the help though.

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Stew Meat
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posted July 15, 2000 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stew Meat   Click Here to Email Stew Meat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 25417919
bump

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gearface
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posted July 15, 2000 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
No, you see bro there is no need to taper up.Start out with the highest your gonna take the work your way down. But do what you want.

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gearface
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posted July 15, 2000 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
No, you see bro there is no need to taper up.Start out with the highest your gonna take then work your way down. But do what you want.

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Lift until u can't...... and then some.

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WCP
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posted July 15, 2000 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Actually bro...the cuban is right on the money...he knows his shit..

You do start high...hit those receptors hard coming out of the gate bro...and dont taper the sust.

Later,
WCP

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D007
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posted July 15, 2000 12:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
Meat, if thats all you really have or you just want to test the waters before you jump in, the best way to use what you have is,
WK--deca------omna------dbol---prov---clom
1----300------250------25mged-------------
2----300------250------25mged-------------
3----300------250------25mged---25--------
4----300------250------25mged---25--------
5----300------250------25mged---25--------
6----300------250---------------25--------
7----300------250---------------25--------
8----300------250--------------------50mgeod
9------------------------------------50mgeod
10-----------------------------------50mgeod
11-----------------------------------50mgED
12-----------------------------------50mgED

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Stew Meat
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posted July 15, 2000 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stew Meat   Click Here to Email Stew Meat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 25417919
What about the proviron? Is it a good idea to cycle it in like that or should I just hold on to it?

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D007
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posted July 15, 2000 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
some people find that it works well as an antiestrogen. but you shouldnt have to worry a lot about estrogen on this cycle, yet proviron would help, just in case. my first cycle was much like this one and i went from 190-230(probably some fat)but you are deffinately playing it safe and should make some rewarding gains if you eat VERY VERY GOOD.

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Stew Meat
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posted July 15, 2000 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stew Meat   Click Here to Email Stew Meat     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 25417919
Updated my cycle, please offer comments...

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