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  getting back into it after three month lay off due to injuries.

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madbomber31
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posted July 14, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
well, i am still hurt like hell, but fuck this. i cant not do it. i think i have tennis elbow or a tear somewhere in there, but oh well, i have trained for 4 years with two cuff tears, so why not do it some more.
i am starting a small cycle, just trying to get some muscle back and tone up. i am only doing about 18-22 mg of reforvit a day, with 400 mg of deca a week, and 200 mg of enanthate a week... i have never done high doses and this is a decent cycle for me, so i dont need criticism or comments about that. i do want feed back on training. i am wondering if i should add more machines into my training. chest killed me, i was a pussy on my free weights, it was kinda funny actually. i am also hoping to make decent gains while using weights 3 or 4 times a week, no more. i used to go 5 a week always, no matter what, but i cant do that now. any feedback for training is welcomed.
if you see me in the gym, please dont point and laugh. "hey look at teh 230 lb pussy lifting 135!!!!!"

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vdevil
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posted July 14, 2000 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71552136
Hey mb, good to see you back. Are you going through to get the sauce?

Try this split: mon.-legs tues.-chest wed.-off thurs.-back/tris fri.-shoulders sat.-off sun.-start cycle over. It has done me wonders for results and recuperation.

If your elbows are fucked, go light on tri's and bi's until they start to strengthen.

Use dumbells alot on chest. They really help to bring it up. Barbell(if you are not already muscular, puts alot of wear and tear on your joints.

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Jeff_rys
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posted July 14, 2000 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
Are you sure it is a tennis elbow ?
Then it must hurt on the outside ? Normally training with weights hurts on the inside. In that case a golf elbow.

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Jeff

Don't look back, life is too short

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madbomber31
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posted July 15, 2000 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
i am not SURE its tennis elbow, however... it hurts on the inside of the joint sometimes... but it ALWAYS hurts on the top. reach your arm out and give the thumbs up sign. look at your arm and at the highest part of the forarm near the elbow is where the pain is.

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300 kleen
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posted July 15, 2000 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
The deca will help with the pain. You should also try Glucosamine and Chondroiton.

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300 kleen


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pillboy
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posted July 15, 2000 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pillboy   Click Here to Email pillboy     Edit/Delete Message
Tennis elbow is lateral epicondylitis and it is painful at the lateral distal end of the humerus. Golfers elbow is on the medial side. They both occur from multiple trama like repeated tennis swings or multiple reps. If its tennis elbow you should stretch your wrist extensors(pushing your wrist down to stretch) and ice after workout. This should help alliviate the problem.

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BACKDRAFT
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posted July 15, 2000 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BACKDRAFT   Click Here to Email BACKDRAFT     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 79358778
I would'nt hesitate to use the machines til you get back into it,why risk more injury.You'll know when your ready to pound the free weights again.You can't win agaist an injury,i've tried a few times and never have any luck.

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glazed_donutz
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posted July 15, 2000 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glazed_donutz   Click Here to Email glazed_donutz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 52939896
hey bro try wearing a brace or a tight band right under your elbow on your forearm side that happens to me and what it is a legimate is frayed possibly and they vibrate together causing the pain and the band prevents that try it at least!!!

i hope you can understand this

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madbomber31
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posted July 16, 2000 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
ive been using the tennis strap thing, it seems to help in tennis
i need to find one of them rubber banded things. they wont be as bulky or scratchy.

by the way, i hurt like fuck right now... my chest and tris are in major pain... oh i missed this.

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jersey boy
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posted July 16, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey boy   Click Here to Email jersey boy     Edit/Delete Message
MB welcome back. I remember your injury as if it was yesterday. The dx'es were fast and furious and the bottom line is that you're still hurt and that is reason for concern. Did you get it checked? I remember asking if there was an muscle deformity and/or bruising but you ended your posts around that time. At any rate, if your are going to train warmup thoroughly before hand (I use flexall prior to training to help facilitate this) and stretch during your entire workout. At the end, ICE in an elongated position to avoid further scar tissue and adhesions from forming.


get big or get out

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shmucko
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posted July 16, 2000 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmucko   Click Here to Email shmucko     Edit/Delete Message
I had tennis elbow for years, then Poliquin said something I probably knew in the back of my mind. He said that for tennis elbow you need strengthen your grip and watch your form. I have been working on grip strength and sure enough the pain is almost completely gone.

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madbomber31
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posted July 16, 2000 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
hey jersey... i have no insurance... so no doc visits. there is no deformation, nor bruising or any discoloration for that matter. it just feels like a charlie horse, but in the forearm instead of the quad.

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Flex
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posted July 16, 2000 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flex   Click Here to Email Flex     Edit/Delete Message
Hey vdevil, where's the back and bi's in that split you suggested..?

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jersey boy
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posted July 16, 2000 10:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey boy   Click Here to Email jersey boy     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmm, I don't see any evidence of permanent injury with what you described. This leads me to believe that the problem is one of a metabolism problem. What I am thinking is taht you may have a trigger point in your radiobrachialis muscle. A trigger point is a focal irritation in the muscle that mimics a miniature muscle spasm. The problem has something to do with the sodium/potassium pump that regulates muscular contraction and release. Hardcore muscle stripping, replacement of of vital electrolytes, (e.g. sodium, potassium, and calcium are the biggies), and a conscious effort to reduce stimulants (which are diuretics in disguise) should help.
I have has this exact problem in my right forarm that prohibited any pulldowns or hammer curls for a few weeks until I finallly worked it out.

Hope this helps.

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TOP JUICER
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posted July 16, 2000 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TOP JUICER   Click Here to Email TOP JUICER     Edit/Delete Message
hey man ive had a serious injury myself and i am just getting over a shoulder opp.
however the surgeon himself noted that with hgh 2ius before bed everynight for a month would do wounders for the recovery maybe you should post a question about hgh and injuires.

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madbomber31
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posted July 18, 2000 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for madbomber31     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 6776073
gonna give myself a bump to see if i get any other responses....

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