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mj
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posted July 14, 2000 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mj   Click Here to Email mj     Edit/Delete Message
anyone here ever try saran wrapping preparation-h for localized fatloss?

if so, what were your results?

thanks in advance!

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Green
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posted July 14, 2000 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green   Click Here to Email Green     Edit/Delete Message
This should be intresting. I've never heard of this before. ~Green

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mistah_d
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posted July 14, 2000 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
holy shite man, try ECA and some cardio. Think of your body as a pond, shallow on the edges and deep in the middle. If you drain water from the pond, the shallow parts will be exposed first, the deepest last to be exposed. In general, localized fat loss is a myth. If your theory is that you will increase the temp in that area and therefore burn more fat, I'm almost positive that won't work. Some people use those silly rubber things around their wastes to sweat out more water from that area. I've never seen that work either.

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havoc
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posted July 14, 2000 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for havoc   Click Here to Email havoc     Edit/Delete Message
Damn, what the F are you thinking, even if that works, what the F, talk about scrounging for a last resort. How about try a thing called a diet and cardio and discipline and consistency and patience. Fuck!

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JohnnyO
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posted July 14, 2000 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyO   Click Here to Email JohnnyO     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11976789
Isn't the main ingredient in prep-h some type of shark oil? I've heard of models using it under the eyes for reduce puffyness, but never for fat. I bet if you did it the result would be localized water loss and you would "look" thinner, but I don't think you would lose any fat.

Now yohimbe cream might be another story, but I haven't tried it.

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ajc1977
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posted July 14, 2000 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
It does not get rid of fat, however it does supposedly help get rid of subcutaneous water. A lot of competitors will apply it to the areas they wish to tighten before getting into a tanning bed.

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Slopain
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posted July 14, 2000 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I have heard of talk show hosts (letterman and leno) use prep H under their eyes to get rid of the bags. I don't think it would work, but if it did I would do it.

Slopain

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mistah_d
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posted July 14, 2000 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
I'm gonna keep this shite F'n bumped. Although this is a ridiculous thought, it shows the need for knowledgable people to help these poor souls out. Can you imagine someone wrapping preparation H around their waist??? Get some roids and use them to get big and cut, don't use anti-roid cream to ;~)

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ajc1977
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posted July 14, 2000 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
There was a little excerpt in this month's flex where King Kamali says he does this and notices beads of water on the area it's applied to after getting out of the tanning bed. I also have heard this from some of the competitors at local shows.

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5setsofsix
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posted July 14, 2000 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 5setsofsix   Click Here to Email 5setsofsix     Edit/Delete Message
With this post I truely believe this board has reached an all time low.

I hope you put it in a 23 guage 1 1/2 pin and bury it in your glute. The only fat loss you can hope for is if it shrinks your brain cells.

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mj
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posted July 14, 2000 12:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mj   Click Here to Email mj     Edit/Delete Message
holy shit!

alls i did was ask for results if anyone has tried it. i dont get why everybody has to flame me for a simple question. i heard it worked and i just wanted to know for sure before i tried it. you all are a bunch of fucking dickheads for treating someone like that just cause they want to know the answer to something. i thought the knowledgable vets on this board were the best out there. i thought vets were supposed to help and inform people rather than flame them.

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Ubermass
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posted July 14, 2000 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ubermass   Click Here to Email Ubermass     Edit/Delete Message
what is does is tighten the skin so it may make you look smaller but it wont get rid of fat. works good on puffy nipples

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mightydog
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posted July 14, 2000 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mightydog   Click Here to Email mightydog     Edit/Delete Message
I would think you would have to have some kind of "Ripply's Believe it or Not" size hemerroids for you to tell any difference.

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ajc1977
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posted July 14, 2000 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
Bro don't worry - All they had to say is "Nope I've never heard of it."

Instead we have a few flame happy dipshits with nothing better to do. I can't say that it works because I have not tried it, but that's not the point.

Don't be afraid to ask questions bro.

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Flex
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posted July 14, 2000 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Flex   Click Here to Email Flex     Edit/Delete Message
guys , this ins't that stupid of a question..just because half of you don't know what he is talking about does'nt make it wrong...The reality of it is that some BB's apply prep-H on there stomach and midsections and then wrap with saran rap in prep for a contest, usually a day or two out , the heat pulls excess water out...it's just another tool to get rid of the bloated look..i havent heard of the whole tanning bed thing, but im sure it probably is done that way too....Some of you idiots just need to quit posting replys until you have something inteligent to say....hope this helps man

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BigPappa
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posted July 14, 2000 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigPappa     Edit/Delete Message
good post. A lot of bodybuilders and fitness gals use this stuff for those stubborn "fat looking" areas. It works IF YOU ARE ALREADY LEAN...sorry HDarling!

Besides the bad smell, it isn't bad. put it on your gut, wrap your midsection in clear wrap, and go to bed.

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ectomorph
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posted July 14, 2000 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ectomorph   Click Here to Email ectomorph     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, this is a legit question and I too have heard of this practice, but have not tried it so I have no idea of the results. But I'll bump it to see what else comes of it.

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Curious
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posted July 14, 2000 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
There is no such thing as spot reduction...it just does not exist. It may make the puffiness go away but it's a temporary fix.

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Green
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posted July 14, 2000 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green   Click Here to Email Green     Edit/Delete Message
mj I was serious about seeing what people said. I've never herd of this before but I'm open to new ideas and questions. I thought it was a legitimate question. A bit out there but nothing wrong with that. Better than "Can I drink winny". Later, Green

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mistah_d
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posted July 14, 2000 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
What the F. Do you need a newbie to tell you about Winny? YES YOU CAN DRINK IT W/ NO ADVERSE EFFECTS EXCEPT A BIT LESS ABSORPTION!!! C

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ajc1977
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posted July 14, 2000 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
YES it's temporary. No one claims it to be permanent.

Thanks for the backup Ubermass, Flex, Big Pappa, and Ectomorph.

I see all the other guys that just knew it was bullshit, don't have much to say now.

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jdismukes
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posted July 14, 2000 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jdismukes   Click Here to Email jdismukes     Edit/Delete Message
I bet that will keep your ass busy.lol

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Puc
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posted July 14, 2000 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
It can and does help with excess skin and loose tissue. I have used it to tighten up my midsection. It only seems to work if you have a low BF already though. Just to get some extra definition in the area.

Guys, this is a very good question. I don't know why you flame for it. It's not like he asked about injecting PGF2A in his cock for localized growth or something. Geesh.

Puc

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ajc1977
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posted July 14, 2000 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
Hey puc - How many times a day would I have to inject the pgf2a. Also what size pin for a pecker injection?

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FitnessChick
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posted July 14, 2000 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FitnessChick   Click Here to Email FitnessChick     Edit/Delete Message
It does work- not a long term solution though...you put it on the night before a contest & it helps rid your body of some extra water & helps to tighten the skin.... the effects are minimal so dont rely on it to do wonders.....its just an added extra measure for someone who is at their best....

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B_Funk
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posted July 14, 2000 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B_Funk   Click Here to Email B_Funk     Edit/Delete Message
I think this is an interesting topic and I don't understand why everyone felt the need to flame MJ for it. It sounds kinda unorthodox, but if it works....

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ulter
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posted July 14, 2000 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ulter   Click Here to Email ulter     Edit/Delete Message
mj I'm sorry you'll have to get used to this but there are a lot of people who will only look at the number of posts you have and reach for their flame-throwers. Ignore it. You have to admit on the surface it does look like a question from left field even though it is a valid question.

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ajc1977
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posted July 14, 2000 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
I've never gotten shitty with anyone on this board before (except source posts), but this one pissed me off. The guys that flamed him need to crawl in a fucking hole for the rest of the day.

5setsofsix you still think this board has reached an all time low? You stupid motherfucker you've got 20 posts and been on here a week. Get lost.

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mistah_d
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posted July 14, 2000 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
Damn, you vets have guilted me into retracting my flame and inserting an apology, It did look like it was from left field...what the F...I better start my gear and pick the rage up a bit, thise nice shit sux...don't think I'll be wrapping myself up in prepH anytime soon though

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mj
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posted July 14, 2000 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mj   Click Here to Email mj     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the back up guys, espeacially ajc1977! you da man!

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Green
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posted July 14, 2000 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green   Click Here to Email Green     Edit/Delete Message
Very cool bro I respect that. Sorry for talking crap. LAter, Green

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ajc1977
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posted July 14, 2000 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ajc1977     Edit/Delete Message
No problem MJ. That's the first time I've ever done anything like that and hopefully the last. That just got me bent out of shape.

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mistah_d
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posted July 14, 2000 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
yes Green, it was directed to you too. I was quick to flame. However, the part about English and all that, you are way off. This is a message board and I am not particular about grammar. I tutor high school and undergrads in math, science and English, so I am confident with my Abilities in English. Like I said though, I retract the flame and apologize. Thanks for your edit.

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Pup'nIrn
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posted July 14, 2000 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pup'nIrn   Click Here to Email Pup'nIrn     Edit/Delete Message
mj, I will be using it for the last 5-7 days while suntanning for a competition. IT will halp you remove subcutaneous water but its only a temp fix. It will not burn fat just extract more water from fat cells under the skin.

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Curious
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posted July 14, 2000 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
I might try that next time I go on vacation. Everyone will think I have a bitchin case of hemoroids though. LOL

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ralphe
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posted July 14, 2000 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ralphe   Click Here to Email ralphe     Edit/Delete Message
don't let it bother you ..... It appears that once people know a few thing they suddenly become experts and forget how little they really know....... "Everyone" can learn something here........try to listen and not be so quick to judge and flame

A wise old owl sat in a Oak,
There more he heard,
The less he spoke,
The less he spoke,
The more he heard,
Why can't we all be like this wise old bird!!

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ralphe
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posted July 14, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ralphe   Click Here to Email ralphe     Edit/Delete Message
don't let it bother you ..... It appears that once people know a few thing they suddenly become experts and forget how little they really know....... "Everyone" can learn something here........try to listen and not be so quick to judge and flame

A wise old owl sat in a Oak,
There more he heard,
The less he spoke,
The less he spoke,
The more he heard,
Why can't we all be like this wise old bird!!

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homewrecker
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posted July 14, 2000 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for homewrecker     Edit/Delete Message
This has some validity to it fellas. One of my good friends just took second in the South Carolina Heavies Open Class and he and some of the other guys used Prep-H and Vicks on their abs and entire body to drain Subcutaneous water. It worked too, he took second in the state!

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Bjaarki
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posted July 14, 2000 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bjaarki   Click Here to Email Bjaarki     Edit/Delete Message
Bros:

Preparation H works in the way MJ proposed for precisely the same reason it's used as a topical treatment for hemorrhoids: It reduces swelling of tissue, whether that tissue is in your butt or around your midsection. The bros are right, though, that it's temporary; it works as an astringent, not as a fat burner. I've known several guys who used it regularly, with good effect.

BTW, flamers should try it on their heads, since that's where they seem to experience the most swelling.

Bjaarki

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mj
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posted July 14, 2000 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mj   Click Here to Email mj     Edit/Delete Message
thanks everyone!

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Gettinhard
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posted July 14, 2000 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gettinhard   Click Here to Email Gettinhard     Edit/Delete Message
this is a funny but good topic!!!

I run an Army recruiting station and have used this method many times....here is my theory and how i do it....

theory:::::preperation H is used for hemroids which is basicly inflamed tissue....most men carry water and fat in the stomach area preperation h heats the area to cause loss of extra water and fatty tissue shrinkage...scientifically i have no proof....

i usually grab the fat fuck have him rub it all over his stomach and wrap him in seran wrap, then clothes and either run him til he drops or stick his fat ass in the sauna...this has imediate results but they are not perminate just allows me to get him down inches in the waist.... and lose a couple pounds then i have me a new troop

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supreme
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posted July 14, 2000 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for supreme     Edit/Delete Message
Prep-H is defiately used in hollywood etc. Many use it to tighten the skin on their face and reduce puffines and wrinkles.

for bodybuilding, the same thing, it tightens the skin and reduces sub-q water You need low bodyfat to see the results.

Do you remember in the 80's a product called Thimucase (sp) it was a cream that did the same but it was 4-5xthe cost. You don't see it really any more because Prep-H does the same for $4 a tube'

Later!


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T-BONE
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posted July 15, 2000 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for T-BONE     Edit/Delete Message
O.K., I've heard of this before and I know it will work for the short term. The thing that worries me is people wrapping themselves with saran wrap. Get a few overeager people and watch them end up dehydrated. I think I'd try an ECA stack first.

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greensha
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posted July 15, 2000 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for greensha   Click Here to Email greensha     Edit/Delete Message
everyone who has been on the board for more than a month or two would know this has been talked about before. yes it does help and just because someone has a high post count, doensn't mean they have been around a while and no everything. ignore the flames.

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thermo
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posted July 15, 2000 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thermo     Edit/Delete Message
try some hydroxycuts and cardio
www.thepowerstore.com

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NoviceJuicer
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posted July 15, 2000 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoviceJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
Since a hemmie is a inflammed vein, does prep-H do anything to reduce vascularity. I know you don't necessarily want vascularity in the abdomen, but with a larger dose (like covering the whole midsection) has anyone ever suggested it reduces vascularity?

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