posted July 14, 2000 05:24 AM            

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mainly concerned with the eq./dbol's dossage/length?

week......dbol.....durateston....eq.
1.........30.......500...........0
2.........30.......500...........0
3.........30.......500...........0
4.........30.......500...........0
5.........30.......500...........0
6..........0.......500...........500
7..........0.......500...........500
8..........0.......500...........500
9..........0.......500...........500
10.........0.......500...........500

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posted July 14, 2000 08:23 AM         

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what the F? Where's you're clomid and why ar eyou dropping D-Bol halfway through?

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posted July 14, 2000 09:13 AM            

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Gotta' taper that Dbol down. The EQ should also be tapered down.

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posted July 14, 2000 10:15 AM            

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Definitely need to taper the dbol down, do not take it for more than the 5 weeks. Also make sure to add in some clomid or else your wasting your money.

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posted July 14, 2000 10:31 AM            

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wk1= dbol-35mg/ sus-750mg/eq-0
wk2= dbol-35mg/ sus-750mg/eq-0
wk3= dbol-35mg/ sus-500mg/ eq-0
wk4= dbol-25mg/ sus-500mg/ eq-0
wk5= dbol-15mg/ sus-500/mg eq-300mg
wk6= clomid-50mg eod /sus-500mg/ eq-400mg
wk7= clomid-50mg eod /sus-500mg/ eq-400mg
wk8= clomid-50mg eod /sus-500mg/ eq-500mg
wk9= clomid-50mg eod/ sus-500mg/ eq-400mg
wk10= clomid-50mg eod/sus-0/ eq-300mg
wk11= clomid-100mgED/ eq-200mg
wk12= clomid-50mgED wk13=clomid 50mgED

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posted July 14, 2000 10:34 AM            

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i also would use Milk thistle and train 6 days on 1off with the dbols, and do you have nolvadex handy?

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posted July 14, 2000 10:39 AM            

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i with these guys. tapper the d-bol and add some clomid. that's a good cycle, you'll love it.

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posted July 14, 2000 10:47 AM            

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I would taper the d-bol only in week 5 to 20mg/day and I would run the EQ a couple of weeks past the test. It looks very good though, nothing more than fine tuning required.

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posted July 14, 2000 11:00 AM         

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HHH's cycle looks good - except I wouldn't taper the Eq up, only down. Hit it hard right from the beginning and taper down.
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posted July 14, 2000 12:32 PM            

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yea bro definatly taper the d-bol!!! And get some clomid!!

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posted July 14, 2000 03:37 PM            

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i have all of the obvious stuff like clomid (eod, 2 weeks after) nolvadex on hand.

And for the Dbol, i put up a post called "Taper Dbol or not" and most people replied do not taper?

ok how does this look

week......dbol.....durateston....eq.
1.........30.......500...........0
2.........30.......500...........0
3.........25.......500...........0
4.........25.......500...........0
5.........20.......500...........0
6.........20.......500...........500
7..........0.......500...........500
8..........0.......500...........400
9..........0.......500...........400
10.........0.......500...........300
11.........0.......000...........200
12.........0.......000...........200

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posted July 14, 2000 04:16 PM            

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Good job on the revamped cycle.

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posted July 14, 2000 08:21 PM            

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anyone else???

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posted July 14, 2000 08:33 PM            

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You are taking the durateston for too long. I would shorten it to 8 weeks.

I do not like test cycles, but this would be fine at 8 weeks. The EQ is in the right place but just adjust for 8 weeks instead of 10 of dura.

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posted July 14, 2000 08:43 PM            

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thanks 2Thick,

does anyone else think that 10 weeks is too long?

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posted July 14, 2000 09:33 PM            

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I would do only 8 weeks total with the eq also ending at 8 weeks. There is no need to leave it in there 2 extra weeks. If there is still exogenous hormones there the HPTA will not normalize.

So I would make it 8 weeks and probably bump the sust up to 750mg for the first 2 weeks and make the eq last 8 weeks.

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posted July 14, 2000 09:54 PM            

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Your HPTA will be fucked regardless, but your test should be controlable with the clomid. As long as concieving a child is not in your plans for the near future dont worry though.
Ive been being blood tested and having semen analysis done for the last 7 months and monitoring my recovery time (I was clean as of mid January).
After a cycle of 800mg of enanthate a week for 8 week (with dbol), I tested out in January POSTclomid to have good amounts of free testosterone in my system, and the doctor felt I had returned my natural test levels near my normal range (which is slightly higher than average. Average being 2.50, Im 3.95 . 5.50 is considered problematically high and 1.75 problematically low if I remember right-I dont have the papers handy)
Heres the problem... clomid ONLY raises your depressed test levels, it has no effect on leydig or sertoli cells! As a result, my FSH and LH levels were so low they werent recordable. My frist semen analysis had me with 1 million sperm (normal being 30 million) and poor to no motility.
About 3 months later I had 44 million sperm but still less than average motility (but an improvement).
(Motility is maturation and is controlled by FSH and LH)
6 months later I had about the samae amount of sperm and much improved (but not optimal) motility. My FSH and LH levels were also greatly improved.
So basically, Im right now in the beginning of a period where I am considered to be "fertile".
Just something to think about...

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posted July 14, 2000 10:40 PM         

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Stick to anabolics, stay away from the androgens. Just an opinion.

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posted July 14, 2000 10:42 PM            

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I would not taper the d-bol because it's
not the end of your cycle. You're replacing it with EQ, therefore you would only need to taper at the end of your cycle to prevent
a crash or shutdown of HPTA.I agree with
2Thick although I like longer cycles(12 to 16
weeks) You don't want to stay on the same a/s
the whole time. Run your cycle for 8 weeks
and then follow it up with 6 to 8 weeks of
primo and winny.

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posted July 15, 2000 12:08 AM            

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Monster,

That is some great info. I would like you to post that info as a new topic.

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