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t48
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 13, 2000 01:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for t48   Click Here to Email t48     Edit/Delete Message
Here's something I found...thought you'd all like to know. From the Washington Post.


The FBI's New Internet Predator

In a front page story today, The Washington Post reports that the FBI has deployed an automated system to broadly wiretap the Internet. The new computer system, dubbed "Carnivore," was developed at FBI computer labs and has been used in fewer than 50 cases so far. But that number is sure to rise, said Marcus Thomas, chief of the FBI's cyber-technology section. "In criminal situations there's not yet been a large call for it," he said, but the bureau already has seen "growth in the rate of requests."

Civil liberties groups said the new system raises troubling issues about what constitutes a reasonable search and seizure of electronic data. In sniffing out potential criminal conduct, the new technology also could scan private information about legal activities. "It goes to the heart of how the Fourth Amendment and the federal wiretap statute are going to be applied in the Internet age," said Marc Rotenberg, head of the Washington-based Electronic Privacy Information Center.

Citing terrorism and the drug war, law enforcers are increasingly fighting for the
relaxation of thresholds for legally spying on citizens. In "Democracy Betrayed Means
New Wiretapping Powers," Director of Information Studies Solveig Singleton shows
that there is no evidence to indicate that doing away with the safeguards on the use of
wiretaps would have prevented any terrorist acts, or any other crimes. She writes that
"reports show that most wiretaps are used to investigate morals offenses such as drugs
and gambling; only a bare handful are used to investigate crimes involving bombs, guns, or arson."

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2Thick
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posted July 13, 2000 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
Good point.

We need to stand up and say we don't like it. Write letters and e-mails. That is the only way they will know we don't like it. Otherwise the gov will just trample over us.

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ironmaster
Pro Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 236)
posted July 13, 2000 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ironmaster   Click Here to Email ironmaster     Edit/Delete Message
Congress is debating internet privacy right now. Email your congressman.

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adamsandlr
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 13, 2000 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for adamsandlr   Click Here to Email adamsandlr     Edit/Delete Message
glad I live In Canada

don't have to deal with the FBI..CIA..and all those bullshit groups

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mistah_d
Amateur Bodybuilder
(Total posts: 35)
posted July 13, 2000 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
Canada...I guess you haven't heard about the huge govt database Canada has on like very one of its citizens...I'm an inofsec specialist and I would much rather live here than Canada as far as that goes. Carnivore is a threat to privacy, but if you think the govt hasn't or isn't monitoring internet traffic you're sadly mistaken. Can't yet be used in court, but it's a nice way to isolate who to investigate...definitely contact congressmen

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Puc
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posted July 13, 2000 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
The only reason you haven't been caught yet is the government has more important ways to spend its resources. The best defense is to simply remain small-time.

I guarentee that if you started selling coke or kiddie porn YOU WOULD BE MARKED.

Puc

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