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rippazoid
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posted July 12, 2000 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
alot of bros on this board feel that it is essential to use some form of test with deca and dball cycle. im just raising a question to get some opinions. my opinion is that if you cant get good gains off 400mg of deca aweek and 6-7 dball per day something is wrong.

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ghans
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posted July 12, 2000 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ghans   Click Here to Email ghans     Edit/Delete Message
For one thing, test is the best base for a cycle. Also, test will help prevent sexual disfunction that deca can cause.

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lethal59
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posted July 12, 2000 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lethal59   Click Here to Email lethal59     Edit/Delete Message
you are right. I get real good gains at low doses compared to what i see(lucky me -haha). And the deca/d-bol cylce will work for you especially if you are abeginner to the "brotherhood". However I am now and will always from now on include a test in my stack. This is to shoot your gains into orbit and keep them afterward and never forget the clomid i did my first two times and never will again It make all the difference.
Peace and good luck

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Recoome
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posted July 12, 2000 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Recoome   Click Here to Email Recoome     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know why guys always say to stack something with test. Test has rapid gains and rapid losses just like any other heavy androgen. It seems to me it'll just screw up your h/p/t/a more than necessary...

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rippazoid
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posted July 12, 2000 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
maybe alot of bros have been using gear for so long that their own test level is so low that they heve to use high levels off test to keep making gains. im not a newbie to the gear game but ive always tried to make the most gains off less. however, i plan on doing my 4Th nat'l qualifier next march and im tired of 2nd and 3rd so this winter i do plan on doing 500-750 mg of sus a week combined with 50mg refb a day and 300eq a week then go 4 weeks off and directly into my comp cycle.

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goleafs
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posted July 12, 2000 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goleafs   Click Here to Email goleafs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64961519
to help the ol danglies recover. or keep em on an even keel.

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crumly5
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posted July 13, 2000 02:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crumly5   Click Here to Email crumly5     Edit/Delete Message
My answer to this question is simple: Lots of guys like to achieve maximul results out of there cycles they are pretty much hitting every "class" of steroid in there arsenal to reach this goal and test is a main stay.
(This is chemical warfare and I fear no chemical!)

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Neiko
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posted July 13, 2000 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Neiko   Click Here to Email Neiko     Edit/Delete Message
My opinion on this question is, the reason people take deca with dbol and test: Test and dbol both cause dramatic increases in size and strength. By adding deca, you eliminate most if not all possibilities of hurting your joints and tendons.

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The Ranger
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posted July 13, 2000 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
Test is what got ya this far Bro...it will and can take you to the limit!!

Dbol will be very quick and strength will go up at a rapid pace...with sus 250 at the 4 week mark, as you come off the dbol, the sus will kick in....Deca will give even gains, create hardness with little water retention...draw back...deca remains detectable for 12 to 18 months....sus 250...3 to 5 months....

Test aromatizes into estrogen....deca activates and binds to the progesteron recpters....what does this mean??

Getting gyno from test...nolva will kill it....getting gyno from Deca....YOUR FUCKED!! Heh heh heh!!! But, you would have to do high doses, and for a long time on the Deca!!

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DianaBallBusta
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posted July 13, 2000 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DianaBallBusta   Click Here to Email DianaBallBusta     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65057870
Deca/Dbol is one of the most effective stacks you can do. They have a synergistic effect on each other since dbol is highly androgenic and deca is highly anabolic. Yea, test will just add to the strength and size gains you'll get, but I wouldn't say you HAVE to include it in this stack.

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