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IronBlood
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IronBlood   Click Here to Email IronBlood     Edit/Delete Message
I have just been diagnosed with high blood pressure.. which is a real kicker cause i just got all my stuff for a killer cycle... its gonna be a deca/sus/d-bol.... I'll post more details if needed.... Have any of you had this type of problem? If so what did you do? Or what would be your advice for me... I wanna do my cycle... but don't really want to take a huge risk that could cause a heart attack... and my doctor's a boner... can't even mention roids around him... any help will be appreciated....

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Amp
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posted July 11, 2000 08:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amp     Edit/Delete Message
The Dbol is a great way to kick off that cycle but you shouldn't add it since it will cause your BP to go much higher.

Anyone have any other ideas on what to sub for the Dbol?

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Monster
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posted July 11, 2000 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Monster   Click Here to Email Monster     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 35077339
Give this a try. Take about 30-50gm of glycerol in water before bed at night. Itll dilute better in warm water, and a package of kool-aid (unsweetened) makes it more bearable. Its a mild (very, very mild) plasma expander and will help lower your blood pressure.

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IronBlood
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IronBlood   Click Here to Email IronBlood     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info guys... keep the advice coming... i really appreciate it..

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Decaman
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posted July 11, 2000 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
My blood pressure was high on deca, not alarmingly high but high enough for the doctor to ask what i was on.

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DECA-IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER

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IronBlood
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IronBlood   Click Here to Email IronBlood     Edit/Delete Message
THe only problem is that this will be my first cycle... my BP is just high... damn genetics.....

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JohnnyO
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyO   Click Here to Email JohnnyO     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11976789
I do know that diretics are sometimes used to treat high blood pressure... would a mild diretic have an affect on this guys cycle?

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IronBlood
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IronBlood   Click Here to Email IronBlood     Edit/Delete Message
Bump

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Jeff_rys
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posted July 12, 2000 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
Ironblood, you don't say how high. Any person should have a BP not higher then 9/14, no mather what age.
You could take some medication to get it down, but there are too many side effects, like feeling tired (good for BB haha).
Maybe herbs ?
It's the salt and the water that gets it high. Some diuretic might help you, even if only one point, but every point counts.
I know for sure PGF2a gets it down, but only the lower part. But I don't know if you take roids and PGF2a.

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Jeff

Don't look back, life is too short

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cachapa
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 12, 2000 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cachapa   Click Here to Email cachapa     Edit/Delete Message
Categories of Hypertension by Blood Pressure

Systolic (mm/Hg) / Diastolic (mm/Hg)

140/85 Normal Blood pressure

140 �160/85-90 High Blood Pressure (borderline Isolated Systolic Hypertension)

160 � 170/90-105 Mild Hypertension

160 � 170/105 - 115 Moderate Hypertension

>170/>115 Severe Hypertension

When doing a heavy cycle my blood pressure will always elevate to Mild Hypertension or Moderate Hypertension. I develop headaches, nose bleeds, and feel like death. I have found that 100mg of Lopressor (metoprobol) a day will work wonders for me. I have tried Catapres (clonidine) but prefer Lopressor because it has less side effects.

Remember that you can go to your Family Practitioner if you are a victim Hypertension. Just tell your doctor that you are under a lot of stress from either work or school and you are experiencing elevated levels in your blood pressure. If the doctor should ask you if you have a family history of Hypertension then answer yes. NEVER ADMIT TO USING JUICE! The doctor will probably not have any lab work done and will put you on a low dose of Hypertension medication such as Lopressor (metoprobol). You will feel much better and be able to enjoy life again.


I hope that this information will help some of you out there.

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JohnnyO
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posted July 12, 2000 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyO   Click Here to Email JohnnyO     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11976789
Would any one know if Vascotec would inhibit any type of cycle here? Vascotec I think is a very widely prescribed drug for hyertension.

John

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SSMAN
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posted July 12, 2000 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
I created a thread on this topic about 2 months ago. I experienced a large spike in my blood pressure while on my cycle (211/101). I discussed my use of anabolics with my doctor, and we decided to try a mild herbal diuretic (water pills). In 1 week my blood pressure was down to 155/80. If that hadn't worked, I would have gone down the following path until finding success:

prescription diuretic
beta blocker
calcium blocker

My doctor wanted to stay away from a beta blocker because my workouts would suffer....it was a last resort option. If I'm going to put the addtional stress on my body by using anabolics, he at least wanted me to get some benefit from it.

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IronBlood
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posted July 12, 2000 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IronBlood   Click Here to Email IronBlood     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for all the advice. My BP has gone down the last couple days.... from 166/93 to 142/83.... don't know what the hell was going on.... but high BP runs in my family... again.. I appreciate the help...

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Green
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posted July 12, 2000 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Green   Click Here to Email Green     Edit/Delete Message
ssman, what are water pills? Can you give me a bit of info about these? I want to try anyhting herbal first before I escalate it to my doctor. I still think he'll freak if I told him I use. Thanks, Green

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Fukkenshredded
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posted July 12, 2000 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fukkenshredded   Click Here to Email Fukkenshredded     Edit/Delete Message
Metaprobol. Get it from your doc.

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mistah_d
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 13, 2000 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mistah_d     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP

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