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Dorian
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posted July 11, 2000 07:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
I'm doing a cycle off sust dbol soon and I was wondering about the timing of HCg after the cycle is finished. Do I take the hcg right after last week or 2 weeks after on the sust. Also, do I take clomid eod those last 2 weeks the sust is still active or do i take it 50mg eod those 2 weeks and then when the sust is out then shoot 100mg a day first week and 50mg a day second.

Just making sure I dont lose all those gains I'm expecting

Dorian

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Dorian
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posted July 11, 2000 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Dorian
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posted July 11, 2000 08:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
I'll just prod myself in the ribs...

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Dorian
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posted July 11, 2000 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dorian   Click Here to Email Dorian     Edit/Delete Message
last bump

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Amp
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posted July 11, 2000 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amp     Edit/Delete Message
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DocJ
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posted July 11, 2000 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DocJ   Click Here to Email DocJ     Edit/Delete Message
I'll be straight with you here, there are probably guys on the board who could answer this one better but I'll give it a shot since no one else has...

This hormone is not a natural male hormone but mimics the natural hormone LH (Luetinising Hormone) almost identically. This LH stimulates the production of testosterone by the testis in males. Thus HCG sends the same message and results in increased testosterone production by the testis due to HCG�s effect on the leydig cells of the testis. Normally this HCG is used to treat women with certain ovarian disorders and it is used to stimulate the testis of men who may be hypogonadal. Athletes use HCG to increase the body�s own natural production of testosterone which is often depressed by long term steroid use. Also when steroids are used in high dosages they can cause false signals to the hypothalamus that results in a depressed signal to the testicles. Over a period of weeks of this depressed signal the testicles ability to respond to any signal from the pituitary becomes very weak, which results in testicular atrophy. To avoid this athletes will use HCG to keep an artificial signal going to the testis and preventing testicular atrophy.
When administered, HGC raises serum testosterone very quickly. A rise in testosterone firs appears in about two hours after injecting HCG. The second peak occurs about two to four days later. HCG therapy has been found to be very effective in the prevention of testicular atrophy and to use the body�s own biochemical stimulating mechanisms to increase plasma testosterone level during training. Some steroid users find that they have some of their best strength and size gains while using HCG in conjunction with the steroids. This may wee be due to the facts that the body has high level of natural androgens as well as the artificial steroid hormones at that time. The optimal dosage for an athlete using HCG has never been established, but it is thought hat a single shot of 1000 to 2000 IU per week will get the desired results. Cycles on the HCG should be kept down to three weeks at a time with an off cycle of at least a month in between.
For example, one might use the HCG for two to three weeks in the middle of a cycle, and for two or three weeks at the end of a cycle. It has been speculated that the prolonged use of HCG could repress the body�s own production of gonadotropins permanently. This is why the short cycles are the best way to go.

OK enough of that shit, here's my experience with it: I used HCG 1500iu every 5 days for 15 days after a test/fina cycle. I noticed that my strength went up even more but I DO NOT believe that it allowed me to "come off" my cycle any easier. Clomid does the trick for me so I havn't used it since.

In my opinion, HCG is for gearheads who have been on a long time, at least 6 months straight.

Sorry that got so long...

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eastarr
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posted July 11, 2000 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eastarr   Click Here to Email eastarr     Edit/Delete Message
Thus the handle doc! Doctor maybe?

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