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special_bill
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for special_bill   Click Here to Email special_bill     Edit/Delete Message
im 26, 5'11", 180 lbs...pretty lean, no acne, non-drinker, training hard for 4 months (have trained on/off for years)...you can see my abs/ striations in shoulders/pecs....want mass..have good diet....critique this cycle:

week....sust....d-bol.......clomid
1.......500mg...40mg/day
2.......500mg...35mg/day
3.......500mg...35mg/day
4.......500mg...30mg/day
5.......500mg...30mg/day
6.......500mg...20mg/day
7.......250mg
8.......250mg
9...........................50mg/day
10..........................100mg/day
11..........................50mg/day

can afford either deca/dbol or sus/dball, not all three....not concerned with testicular appearance, just retention of gains...how's the clomid?...too much/ too long?..what about the taper?...seems like you could crash on clomid like anything else...just a thought...wail away...

ps. have greath health insurance

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YellowD98
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posted July 11, 2000 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
You should probably do clomid eod during the cycle. It doesn't hurt your gains and helps prevent gyno so you don't have to resort to nolva which does impede on your gains. Other than that, it looks good. I chose to spread out my sus to every 4 days so it would be evenly spread out. You might just want to put the last two 250's into one 500 for the last week, no need to taper sus. Other than that, looks good. (There's no such thing as too much clomid)

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gearface
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posted July 11, 2000 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
Looks good, yeah you might wanna do the clomid 50mg EOD throughout.

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special_bill
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 11, 2000 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for special_bill   Click Here to Email special_bill     Edit/Delete Message
okay-what about 50 mg/eod throughout, then 100 mg/ed for two weeks post cycle (instead of three).well of course that's supposed to work, its what everybody does....here's the deal, sus250 stays around for quite awhile...ill be initially combating the drop in dball, but it seems like after i kick the sus, the residuals will keep me from making natual test for 3-4 weeks...it just seems like two weeks aint long enough.....

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morereps
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posted July 11, 2000 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for morereps   Click Here to Email morereps     Edit/Delete Message
Use the sust-dbol combo. Looks good. No need to tapper sust. Use clomid eod , whole cycle.

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Bossman
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posted July 11, 2000 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bossman   Click Here to Email Bossman     Edit/Delete Message
Looks pretty good. No need to taper the sus, it is self tapering. The best option would be 500mg every five days, but if you want to stick to 500mg a week, do 250mg every three or four days. And don't forget the clomid 50 mg EOD all the way through and 100mg ED first week post and 50 mg ED second.
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