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TexInNYC
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posted July 10, 2000 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexInNYC   Click Here to Email TexInNYC     Edit/Delete Message
I have access to depo tesosterone, deca, winstrol, and Oxandrin...all legally.

I did one 12 week cycle with the testosterone and the deca...building up to 400mg of testosterone and 400 of deca by week 6 and then gradually going down to week 12. I gained almost 30 pounds of muscle...no gain in waist measurement.

The drawback was that I got a blood clot (I've learned from the deca which raises your hematocrit) and was hospitalized.

I would love to get some more of the lean tissue but am afraid of the clots. I've been told that I should have my hematocrit tested and have a phlebotomy when necessary; but what if I wait a day to long to have the hematocrit tested and get another clot?

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated!

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TexInNYC
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posted July 10, 2000 09:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexInNYC   Click Here to Email TexInNYC     Edit/Delete Message
I've posted a lenghtier post to the HIV board but with no success. Hasn't anyone else had too "thick" a blood count (deca does slow down clotting time but it increases red blood cell count) and clotted; or, know of anyone who has? It feels real lonely being the only guy who clots when using deca.

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matty
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posted July 10, 2000 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
EQ HAS A SIMILAR EFFECT, I FEEL SHORTNESS OF BREAT SOMETIMES! WHERE WAS THE CLOT?? AND ARE YOU HIV+?

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TexInNYC
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posted July 10, 2000 09:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexInNYC   Click Here to Email TexInNYC     Edit/Delete Message
The clot was in my leg (deep-vein)...got the vein severed to keep the clot from moving into my torso.
And yes I am HIV poz...that's how I get the steroids.

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Deepsquat
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posted July 10, 2000 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deepsquat   Click Here to Email Deepsquat     Edit/Delete Message
Back in Nov. I tore my esophagues,nearly bleed to death into my stomach...was 17 days into a cycle of deca and test...didnt help my blood clot...though once I was out of the hospital...after 10 days i started in on the deca again (to raise my hemetcrite,had 6 units of blood transfused and it really wasn't enough) and It worked ...the doctor was shocked at how quickley my hematocrite levels rose!

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even my battle with death could only keep me out of the gym for 35 days

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TexInNYC
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posted July 10, 2000 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TexInNYC   Click Here to Email TexInNYC     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry to hear of your medical difficulty...sounds like a real bad dream.

However real pleased to hear of your drive and your optimism!

My problem is that my hematocrit is normal and the first injection of deca sends it into the "quick get a phlebotomy (pint of blood drained to get rid of red blood cells)."

I've heard that other guys get phlebotomys on a regular basis to prevent this. But how do they know that their not waiting too long for it?

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BigWh1tey
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posted July 10, 2000 10:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWh1tey   Click Here to Email BigWh1tey     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75900860
i know alot of guys who have done alot of dec ( myself included ) but i dont know anyone personally who has had that problem .
Seeing as how you have your AS legally doesnt your physician have an opinion on this ? And if deca is out of the question for you , maybe there are other alternatives for you ( gh + test + oxandrin doesnt sound to bad from here ) .
Regardless , good luck .

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tucker
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posted July 10, 2000 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tucker     Edit/Delete Message
Do you stand on your feet alot?Get some "ted" hose from a medical sales store.They will really improve the circulation throughout your lower limbs.Dont know about the pt/ptt increase due to anabolics,Your kidney produces the epo,which increases the number of blood cells.Hope your not having kidney problems,talk to your doc and get a full blood series done.Hope things work out.

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