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Author	Topic: STERIODS RAISE OR LOWER THE IMMUNE SYSTEM
slim jim Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 157)	posted July 10, 2000 03:32 PM ANYBODY? TRYING TO GET RID OF THIS COLD FOR THREE DAYS NOW. IP: Logged
JohnnyO Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 70)	posted July 10, 2000 03:36 PM I say raise the immune system... I know a few people taking roids for HIV. If it lowered the immune system and sure they wouldn't be doing so well on it.. they are huge now, gaining about 50 pounds of muscle in about two years. They were down to 120 pounds before the roid treatment. IP: Logged
ulter Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80)	posted July 10, 2000 03:40 PM It will raise your immune system. Stay on too long it will lower your immune system. IP: Logged
animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 809)	posted July 10, 2000 03:42 PM jonny O, just be cause you have muscle, doesnt mean you have a good immune system, I am convinced AAS surpress the immune system, I am 4 days with this cold and ear infection after starting dball, I have no energy...I know many other like me out there IP: Logged
GETCUT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 335)	posted July 10, 2000 03:44 PM come to think of it i've never gotten sick while on juice....hmmmmmmmmm ------------------ G.C. feel the power... [This message has been edited by GETCUT (edited July 10, 2000).] IP: Logged
giantset Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 217)	posted July 10, 2000 03:49 PM I got sick on a cycle once and I just dropped the d-bol for 4 or 5 days until I felt better. Now that I look back on it, I think I might of just had the sustaflu 250 and probably should have just worked through it. It seems logical that roids would boost your immune system since it raises your metabolism but I have heard arguments both ways. Later, giantset IP: Logged
mokhtarsayed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 137)	posted July 10, 2000 03:54 PM I've read that AS raise the immune system while you're on cycle. But then the body gets used to it and the immunity declines if the cycle is too long, or after the cycle is over. So, right after the cycle one shouldn't over work himself or be careless healthwise because the risk of catching some sort of infestion increases. For your cold now, try 1gm of vitamin C a ady and some asprin, they actually work! Just my 2 cents bro. ------------------ _______________________ Mokhtar IP: Logged
ulter Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 80)	posted July 10, 2000 04:00 PM Everyone's body reacts differently. If your body see's the substance as an invader it will of course raise your body temp and send out the T-Cells to attack. But you are really taking too much if this condition doesn't subside in a couple of days. IP: Logged
JohnnyO Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 70)	posted July 10, 2000 04:33 PM That's some really good info, as I didn't think it would lower the immune system when the cycle was too long. That would explain the "never longer than 6 weeks" cycles that the HIV positive guys are doing. Hope you are feeling better animal. John IP: Logged
BigWh1tey Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 139)	posted July 10, 2000 05:07 PM i do think there is any corellation between AS and the immune system . The function of AS for hiv+ / AIDS sufferers is to prevent wasting . My general health while on seems about the same as when im off , but this time of year i have the worst fucking allergies and my doctor told me AS can raise histamine levels , hence making allergies worse. ------------------ "Ive got pieces of guys like you in my stool" -- Frank Sinatra IP: Logged
slim jim Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 157)	posted July 10, 2000 05:43 PM THANKS ALOT GUYS FOR THE INFO. IP: Logged
BC Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4)	posted July 10, 2000 06:32 PM I take 2000mg of vitamin c , when I feel a cold comin on I take 5000mg , hardly ever sick, and C is cheap , and powerful overall. GOOD LUCK IP: Logged
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 494)	posted July 10, 2000 07:05 PM A rough abstract translation from German: [The more effective immune system of women against infectious agents] VERNACULAR TITLE: Das leistungsfahigere Abwehrsystem der Frau gegen Infektionserreger. Even the reactions of the immunological system are dependent on the sex. Estrogens are the natural stimulants of the general resistance. On the other hand, androgens especially testosterone have an anabolic effect on the voluntary muscles but they inhibit the immunological system. Therefore, women show more resistance to the most infectious agents with the exception of intestinal parasites. To some extent the higher expectation of life of women may be due to that stronger female resistance to infectious agents. AND Modulation of immune responses by anabolic androgenic steroids. Anabolic androgenic steroids (AS) have been placed on the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA's) list of controlled substances, because of the adverse effects seen in athletes taking accelerated dosages in attempts to enhance performance. Reported deleterious effects on abusers include sterility, gynecomastia in males, acne, balding, psychological changes, and increased risks of heart disease and liver neoplasia. Considering the roles of the immune and neuroendocrine systems and their interactions in many of these pathologies, it is important to determine the effects of these derivitized androgens on this connection. Little is known in this respect. We therefore determined the effects of anabolic steroids on certain immune responses and their effects on the extrapituitary production of corticotropin by lymphocytes. We present evidence that (1) both 17-beta and 17-alpha esterified AS, nandrolone decanoate and oxymethenelone, respectively, significantly inhibited production of antibody to sheep red blood cells in a mouse abuse model; (2) the control androgens testosterone and dehydroepian-drosterone (DHEA) or sesame seed oil vehicle had no significant effects on antibody production; (3) nandrolone decanoate and oxymethenelone directly induced the production of the inflammatory cytokines IL-1 beta and TNF-alpha from human peripheral blood lymphocytes but had no effect on IL-2 or IL-10 production; (4) control androgens had no direct cytokine inducing effect; (5) nandrolone decanoate significantly inhibited IFN production in human and mouse cells; and (6) nandrolone decanoate significantly inhibited the production of corticotropin in human peripheral blood lymphocytes following viral infection. These data indicate that high doses of anabolic steroids can have significant effects on immune response. ------------------ The Mad Scientist IP: Logged
Jetpilot Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 63)	posted July 10, 2000 08:52 PM Ok I can answer this question straight because I have first hand exp. I spent a week in the hospital and about 4 weeks very sick. I do know a small amount of steriods can raise the immune system, however with the amounts taken to build muscle it all changes. Certain roids such A-50s and test will cause your immune system to vanish completely. This is a fact a simple cold almost killed me during this time. I have not been on anything since. Next you might ask how do you know this caused it. Well its like this I was transported to a specail hospital hours away after doctors could not explain this. THis hospital deals with nothing but deadly diseases. After a week and then many testsssssss(mind you I do mean many) they tried some very new medications and the end result was me finally getting better. Its a true story and something to think about......what you do with this info is your own business. stay safe IP: Logged
CornFed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 230)	posted July 10, 2000 09:06 PM Are you on sust???? Probably just the sust flu...lotsa people get it it sucks for about 4-5 days...Then you are a monster so it won't matter.. IP: Logged
FitnessChick Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 922)	posted July 10, 2000 09:38 PM while on gear your immune system is stronger....hence less sickness, etc... however, once off the gear, you are more at risk for sickness, and the duration of the illness may increase. I have read it seems to be more of a problem for those on gear for 12 weeks or longer. IP: Logged
mokhtarsayed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 137)	posted July 11, 2000 07:04 AM Well, it seems that both arguments have scientific support. But it seems safe to say that a steroid user will experience a drop in the immune system at one point or the other. So, does anyone agree that it's better to use vitamin C and/or Echinacea while on steroids, and for a little while after the cycle? Seems to me this would increase protection in both cases. ------------------ _______________________ Mokhtar IP: Logged

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