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  DON'T READ JUST BUMP: YES OMNA IS THE SAME AS SUS.

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Author Topic:   DON'T READ JUST BUMP: YES OMNA IS THE SAME AS SUS.
lethal59
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posted July 09, 2000 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lethal59   Click Here to Email lethal59     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry!
I'm just sick of people asking that fucking question. (Are they the same?, Are they the same? -FUCK-
They are the same! it's relatively new that they are, but they are the same. Jelfa changed their formula.
Thankyou

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D007
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posted July 09, 2000 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
Yes they used to be slightly different but recently they have been made identical.

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coolhandluke
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posted July 09, 2000 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
actually its been about three years since they made the change....

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B_Funk
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posted July 09, 2000 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for B_Funk   Click Here to Email B_Funk     Edit/Delete Message
same shit. bump

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Wesley PIPES
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posted July 09, 2000 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wesley PIPES   Click Here to Email Wesley PIPES     Edit/Delete Message
Same gear! Although Greg Zulak, claims theres different ingredients and more water retention with omnadren, in this months MUSCLEMAG.

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big_guy1
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posted July 09, 2000 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for big_guy1   Click Here to Email big_guy1     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5126477
yup same stuff..BUMP

big-guy

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El_Ess_Dee_25
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posted July 09, 2000 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for El_Ess_Dee_25   Click Here to Email El_Ess_Dee_25     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 5286328
hey i just picked up a few of those.i hear its the same as test but there is only 1 different testastrone in it.

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coolhandluke
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posted July 09, 2000 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
it is exactly the same as sust.all the esters are the same!!!!!!!!!!!!

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ThePitbull
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posted July 09, 2000 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePitbull   Click Here to Email ThePitbull     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75689837
BUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This ? has come up a lot lately.

Pitbull

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bgriff
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posted July 09, 2000 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
UHHHHH BUMP

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coolhandluke
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posted July 09, 2000 09:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
bump!!!!

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gearface
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posted July 09, 2000 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
bump..hey i got 300 posts now ...im a badass

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Whammo
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posted July 09, 2000 10:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whammo   Click Here to Email Whammo     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know if I am behind in the times or if I just used the 'older stuff' that had the different formula, but the 'older' I used isn't exactly the same. The stuff I used has different esters that are roughly the same, but as Zulak says, they do cause more water retention.

Sus is decanote, cypionate, enanthate and propinate.
Omna is decanote, caproate, isocaproate and hexanoate, so, if the newer one is the same, then I am not up to date, but if you are using the 'older stuff', they are not exactly the same...

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mrbill
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posted July 09, 2000 10:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mrbill   Click Here to Email mrbill     Edit/Delete Message
hey bros...this is what I have read about it, this is the Jelfa manufactured in Poland:

Omnadren 250 is an oil-based injectable containing a blend of four different testosterone compounds: testosterone propionate, 30 mg; testosterone phenylpropionate, 60 mg; testosterone isohexanoate, 60 mg; and testosterone hexanoate, 100 mg. Because Omnadren contains four different testosterones, many people will compare it with Sustanon. Omnadren does contain testosterone propionate and testosterone phenylpropionate in the same strength as Sustanon; however, testosterone isohexanoate and testosterone hexanoate replace the testosterone isocaproate and testosterone decanoate in Sustanon. As a result, Omnadren has a very different effect than Sustanon. To begin with, users of Omnadren will experience a heavy water retention. This characteristic leads to rapid gains in size and strength, but also causes the muscles to look very smooth and watery. Unlike Sustanon, Omnadren readily converts to estrogen, which may cause gynecomastia. The estogen-linked side effects can be reduced or prevented with the simultaneous use of Nolvadex(tamoxifen citrate) and Proviron(mesterolone).

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Roy Batty
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posted July 10, 2000 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Roy Batty   Click Here to Email Roy Batty     Edit/Delete Message
AS LONG AS YOU GET THE PINK BOXED.HEHE

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HeavyLifterX
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posted July 10, 2000 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
Hey whammo, sus does not have enanthate in it, neither does it have cypionate. Need to research before you post.

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coolhandluke
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posted July 10, 2000 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
got this off the jelfa site, will you people just accept the factt hat the formula changed 4 years ago!!!!
Composition:

Testosterone propionate 30 mg
Testosterone phenylpropionate 60 mg
Testosterone isocaproate 60 mg
Testosterone decanoate 100 mg
Benzyl alcohol 50 mg
Oil for injection upto 1 ml
Indications:

In males: absent sexual maturation, reduced fertility (oligospermia), deficiency of androgens and hypogenitalism, male climateric symptoms, impotence.
In females: functional uterine bleedings in hyperoestrogenism, uterine myomas, endometriosis, menopausal distu rbances (treatment in combination with oestrogens) premenstrual tension syndrome, late metastases of breast cancer.

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DubSack
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posted July 10, 2000 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DubSack   Click Here to Email DubSack     Edit/Delete Message
bump......got some yesterday!

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Ice Man
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posted July 10, 2000 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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markaveli222
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posted July 10, 2000 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for markaveli222   Click Here to Email markaveli222     Edit/Delete Message
BUMP...by the way I just did my first shot of Omnadren a couple of hours ago!

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coolhandluke
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posted July 10, 2000 06:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for coolhandluke   Click Here to Email coolhandluke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 47436318
bump

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Amp
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posted July 10, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amp     Edit/Delete Message
Bump - Starting Sust250 for the first time ever next week. I feel like I'm getting a new car next week. It's so funny how us juicers get so excited about putting together cycles and giving ourselves shots.

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scooby
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posted July 10, 2000 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scooby   Click Here to Email scooby     Edit/Delete Message

Bump cuase they are the same.

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benchmaster
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posted July 11, 2000 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benchmaster   Click Here to Email benchmaster     Edit/Delete Message
Bump that!

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giantset
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posted July 11, 2000 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 81476890
bump

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Vitaman
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posted July 11, 2000 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vitaman   Click Here to Email Vitaman     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 77744808
Bump

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benchmaster
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posted July 11, 2000 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benchmaster   Click Here to Email benchmaster     Edit/Delete Message
Yep.....The same...........Bump

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wilddave
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posted July 11, 2000 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for wilddave   Click Here to Email wilddave     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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Whammo
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posted July 11, 2000 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Whammo   Click Here to Email Whammo     Edit/Delete Message
Heavy,

Ya sorry.. I was trying to go by memeory.. but I was pretty sure about the omna.. I just knew they were different (isohexanoat, hexanoate), etc...

Thanks,

W

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rocky
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posted July 11, 2000 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rocky   Click Here to Email rocky     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 69333996
OK

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costanza
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posted July 11, 2000 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for costanza   Click Here to Email costanza     Edit/Delete Message
The Jelfa web site is shading the truth, at least according to a recent very detailed article on t-mag. They aren't exactly the same, though they are very close. Organon has rights to the Sustanon formulation. Jelfa is shading the truth. I can't dig up the article, though, but it was the issue before last, I think.

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