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 different ways to take clen???
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aky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
posted July 09, 2000 10:44 AM
   i was going to start my clen... but have a few 'simple' questions for you guys... 1) I'm taking eca right now, so is it better to do them together.. if so would 1 week eca/clen be good or would it be 2 weeks eca/clen??? 2) Do they have to be taken like D-Bol... or can i take them all together... or divide them up through-out the day... THanks guys, i know these are simple questions... i searched for them but couldnt find what i was looking for.. thanks again! IP: Logged |
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xtreemrush Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 172) |
posted July 09, 2000 03:02 PM
Good ?...I will bump 4 ya. IP: Logged |
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Green Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 124) |
posted July 09, 2000 06:14 PM
Bro heres a good stack. Start taking T-3 at 25mcg/day and increase 25mcg. every 4 days until you get to 75mcg/day (can go up to 100 if you want). Stay there for 14 days and taper down the same way you did going up. Then alternate weeks between the clen/eca. This is a great fat burning cycle! Hope this helps, Green IP: Logged |
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aky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
posted July 09, 2000 07:01 PM
ya that probably is a good fat burner... but i want to stay away from T3's.... does anyone else have an opinion.... also is it clen that also burns muscles or is that T3's .. cant seem to remember! thanks IP: Logged |
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Fukkenshredded Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 38) |
posted July 09, 2000 07:26 PM
T3 is rarely as effective in practice as it would seem from all those who claim success with it. Improper diet will result in a loss of muscle as well as fat. Most of those who have success with T3 carry an extraordinary amount of muscle tissue to begin with, and are also very familiar with proper dieting techniques. If you aren't carrying a significant amount of mature muscle when you start taking T3, it is probable that you are not thoroughly familiar with muscle preservation methodology in the context of dieting. Effectiveness of methodology varies from organism to organism, and each person discovers the most effective approach for themselves based on a great deal of personal experience...a process in which a by-product is generally the acquisition of quality muscle. Administration of T3 in a person not thoroughly familiar with their own body's idiosynchrocies and subtle responses to caloric restriction is a bad idea. The likely result is immediate muscle wasting and a risk of thyroid function impairment. As for clenbuterol...(I love that shit)...simply start with three pills/day, three hours apart or so. Escalate the dosage by one pill a day, spacing the administrations apart as evenly as possible, until you are at about 140-160mcg, or eight or nine pills per day. Continue until the effect diminishes to the point of no longer justifying the intake and expenditure (probably about 4-5 weeks). Remember that the cosmetic effects of clen vanish as rapidly as they appear, unless you take it for extended periods of time continuously, which I'm not convinced is entirely risk free. Hope this helps. IP: Logged |
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aky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
posted July 09, 2000 08:01 PM
fuckenshredded... i heard that you are suppose to take clen for no more that 2 weeks. how about 1 week clen, 1 week ECA for 1 month... would that be ok.. also how much weight can i expect to lose! IP: Logged |
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Maverik Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 65) |
posted July 09, 2000 08:14 PM
Do a search on this and you will find that there are different ways that each person does it. Read about them and make your own decision. I prefer a 2 on/2 off pattern because you can stay on it longer and you can take your E/C/A on your off days. IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 547) |
posted July 09, 2000 08:25 PM
2 on /2 off for ECA, not clen. half-life of clen is too long. I still wish someone would explain to me what the point is of alternating between clen and ECA when both ephedrine and clen work via similar mechanisms(beta-antagonism, CNS). I can't see how this would prolong the effects. But then again, I suck at physiology. Puc IP: Logged |
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aky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
posted July 09, 2000 08:57 PM
can it be taken on an empty stomach... and how many hrs should i leave in between... and when should the last one be taken.. like 8hrs before i go to bed... OK I'M GOING TO TAKE MY FIRST TAB IN 5 MINUTES!!! CAN'T WAIT! IP: Logged |
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300 kleen Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 2331) |
posted July 09, 2000 09:16 PM
Take the clen 2 weeks on 2 weeks off, then use ECA on your off weeks so you don't crash. Divide the dosages up evenely throughout the day, and don't take it too late in the day or you will not sleep. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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aky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
posted July 09, 2000 09:29 PM
thanks 300 kleen.... how does 1 week on 1 week off sound... will that also work... just wondering.... i started today and am not sure if i should do 1 week or 2 week.... thanks IP: Logged |
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Fukkenshredded Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 38) |
posted July 09, 2000 09:49 PM
Two days on/ two days off is a theory of administration that is intended to extend the effective period of clenbuterol. Unfortunately, the theory is too often regarded as fact, probably because it was suggested in part by Dan Duchaine. I have rarely seen mention of the actual facts regarding receptor attenuation RECOVERY. True enough, downgrade of affinity is rapid with clen. Recovery, on the other hand, is not. In fact, there is some question as to whether or not there is ever total recovery, which might explain why clen doesn't seem to work as well as it does the first time one tries it. Evidence seems to indicate that the amount of receptor cell recovery over a period of two days is neglegible, and therefore does not increase the receptor cell affinity for the drug enough to counterbalance the absence of the drug for those two days. To me it seems logical that rapid receptor cell downgrade is in fact MORE reason to take as much as possible as quickly as possible. Emperical data corresponds to that hypothesis, at least in my case. Take alot, quickly, until it stops working. Now then, clen crash is unavoidable. ECA is a crude substitution for B2 or B3 cell stimuli, but nonetheless is mysteriously presented as a similar acting and nearly as effective substitute for clen. If only that were true! Ephedrine alkaloids altogether suck. Period. If you MUST use them, try using one of the compounds that includes 1R,2S norephedrine in conjunction with yohimbine HCL, and, if possible, theophyline. I believe Syntrax is pushing that crap right now, with 'adipokinetix'. Enough of that shit will burn fat, but not without side effects. If you really don't care about side effects at all (and some bodybuilders don't), then just stay on clen for eight to ten months. After about the fourth month you will notice a peculiar thing...your musculature will start to alter in its appearance,becoming granular and eventually almost gnarly. I know because I did it, I didn't read it. I also couldn't stop bleeding from small cuts and my heart would skip beats more and more frequently. When I finally stopped, I got smooth for about a month, and cramped easily. However, the granular look stayed with me (after I lost the fat again) and is certainly a direct result of excessive clenbuterol use. Incidentally, there was also a significant strength increase. Hope this info helps out. IP: Logged |
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tray renfro Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 657) |
posted July 09, 2000 10:09 PM
i take all of mine once i wake up, works great for me. also go two weeks on clen then two weeks e/c/a. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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aky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 144) |
posted July 10, 2000 10:05 PM
ok i'm on my second day of clen. Am i suppose to feel something right away or hrs later.. what's the deal. I took 1 tab 3 times with 3hrs in between, and 8 hrs after my last tab... i got massive headaches... is that normal... what is suppose to happen! IP: Logged |
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