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shoulders
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 08, 2000 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shoulders   Click Here to Email shoulders     Edit/Delete Message
Does anybody know if anabolics can permenently lower testosterone. People say get your test back up after a cycle but does it come up to a new lower level than before? I read about this possiblity before and not sure if it is true or not.

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PeteyPete
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posted July 08, 2000 08:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeteyPete   Click Here to Email PeteyPete     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 78260652
good question. bump

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D007
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posted July 08, 2000 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
i didnt feel like mine ever went completely back to normal after first.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted July 08, 2000 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Using clomid during and after a cycle will help your body's natural test production stay the same.

Some poeple don't use these and then they take HCG to try to blast their test back up -that may not always work.

Stick with the clomid.

matt

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XCYTER
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posted July 08, 2000 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for XCYTER   Click Here to Email XCYTER     Edit/Delete Message
Another possibility is receptor downgrade, the receptors get use to high amounts of test, so when the natural stuff flows its not as effective. ..anyone else?

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FLEXMEX
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posted July 09, 2000 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FLEXMEX     Edit/Delete Message
USE CLOMID DURING AND A GONAKOR HCG AFTERWARDS.GONAKOR SEEMED TO WORK BETTER FOR ME

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GOD DAMN.....ITS GOOD TO BE ME !!!

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aahepp
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posted July 09, 2000 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aahepp   Click Here to Email aahepp     Edit/Delete Message
If you stay on a test based AS for too long yes you can shut your testies down for good. Now a normal cycle won't kill them, shut them down yes. Now if you do a straight 6 month cycle then you can probablly say bye to them. Surpressing them doesn't hurt them, now cutting them off completely then you do have a problem.

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Recoome
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posted July 12, 2000 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Recoome   Click Here to Email Recoome     Edit/Delete Message
Then how come long-time steroid users have to mega-dose to see any gains? Is it permanent receptor downgrade, or lower natural testosterone levels?

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1 Mistake
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posted July 12, 2000 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 1 Mistake     Edit/Delete Message
The longer the cycles and amount will POSSIBLY effect your test levels forever when you decide to come off. I know its hard , but try to stay off for as long as you are on

J

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