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tranhrd
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posted July 07, 2000 10:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tranhrd     Edit/Delete Message
This is my first cycle and I wanted to keep the doses very low to see how my body would react. I am on 250mg sust/week 25mg dbol/day. This is my second week.I read through all the searches and back posts before I started "ssman" had delt with it so I had milk thistle cranberry juice primrose oil before I started.I try to get 1 to 2 gallons water/ day. I have a burning sensation in my lower back close to my spine about 4 inches up from my waist. My urine is clear and it dosent hurt or burn when I go. I was woundering if anybody else had pains and what they felt like.
THANKS for your help

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matty
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posted July 07, 2000 11:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
ive realized that just drinking that much water a day can be the cause of the pain!!!

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tranhrd
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posted July 07, 2000 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tranhrd     Edit/Delete Message
I forgot to add. If things went well I was going to up my dose to 750mg sust/wk and 35mg/day dbol.I don't now I'm worried.

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musclegear
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posted July 08, 2000 12:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclegear   Click Here to Email musclegear     Edit/Delete Message
How many grams of protein per day are you eating?? Too much protein can put a strain on the kidneys. The dbol and sus are pretty low so that is most likely not the problem. Unless you have bad gear (counterfeit, dirty company like Brovel, etc...). Do you drink alot of alcohol? There has to be something else going on here...

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tranhrd
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posted July 08, 2000 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tranhrd     Edit/Delete Message
Protein 3to 4 hundred g/day over half from shakes and meal replacement. no drinking at all.

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musclegear
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posted July 08, 2000 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclegear   Click Here to Email musclegear     Edit/Delete Message
That's your problem! Limit yourself to 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight per day for a few weeks and see if the pain goes away. That's way too much protein if you weigh under 200lbs (just guessing). Keep drinking 1-2 gallons of water per day as well, that will actually help your kidneys. Also, go see your doctor, all info you give him/her is confidential, just tell him/her that you're having kidney pain and he'll run the proper tests to see what the problem is. It may also be genetic, does anyone in your family have kidney problems?

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tranhrd
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posted July 08, 2000 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tranhrd     Edit/Delete Message
I weigh 220 and I thought 2g/lb I didn't have any shakes today see how i feel tomorrow. What do you say to the doctor? I don't have a personal relationship with him. Should I tell him I use or just that I am having kidney pain.

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musclegear
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posted July 08, 2000 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclegear   Click Here to Email musclegear     Edit/Delete Message
There are tons of claims about what is the right amount of protein per day. The last article I read about protein intake written by a DOCTOR stated anything above .818 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight per day is a waste and can cause undo stress on the kidneys. I would try 220 grams per day, keep drinking the water, and see how you feel. Also, your doc will most likely flame you on the use of anabolic steroids and blame all of your medical problems on them. Just remind him that no matter what he says he's still your doctor and you're paying him to fix the problem, not give you a BS U.S. govt. approved lecture on the use of AS. Tell him what you're taking, how much protein you're consuming, etc... Make sure he runs the proper tests on your kidneys as well.

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tranhrd
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posted July 08, 2000 12:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tranhrd     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for your help "GEAR". I will try that over the weekend.If I dont't feel better on monday I'll go to the doctor.I'm really hopeing that it's a muscle strain or something like that. Thats why I ask for other people to describe what there pain felt like.

your help is greatly appreciated

thank you

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tranhrd
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posted July 08, 2000 01:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tranhrd     Edit/Delete Message
bump for myself then I have to get some sleep...

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bigrand
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posted July 08, 2000 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigrand   Click Here to Email bigrand     Edit/Delete Message
your urine would be darker if you had kidney problems, possibly blood. If your really scared, get a urinalysis. You will will know within a day. Do you have any rashes? If so, it might indicate dissinegration of the glomulars(sp) in the bowmans capsules in the kidneys, in that case, see a doc imidiatly.

[This message has been edited by bigrand (edited July 08, 2000).]

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PYTHON_22INCH
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posted July 08, 2000 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PYTHON_22INCH   Click Here to Email PYTHON_22INCH     Edit/Delete Message
DAMN BRO... MAYBE SQUATTING TOO MUCH AND GOT SOME PRESSURE ON YOUR NERVES? AT LEAST NOT PAIN WHEN YOU URINATE... MEANS SHE WAS CLEAN OR YOU WORE A RUBBER...

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