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travis45 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:45 PM
What is the best way to take Winny. I know there has been a lot of stuff about drinking winny posts lately. They really did not ask what I was wondering. I have injected winny before. Is drinking it just as effective and how exacly are you supposed to drink it. Do you mix it with something? Hope this isn't too stupid of a question. Thanks IP: Logged |
G-Man Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:51 PM
Here is what i think... i have injected also but i haven't drunk it. This is what i am going to do 50mg eod. One time inject next time drink i think it will work pretty good. They say it is almost the same as injecting. So do both and you should be good to go. Hope this has helped. ------------------ IP: Logged |
travis45 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:53 PM
Is there a certian way to drink it? I it really as good? IP: Logged |
stickboy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 8) |
posted July 07, 2000 10:20 PM
since it is 17aa and in a water base it is the same mg-mg as the tablets. drink some milk thistle or something of that nature to protect your liver. it is tasteless. one method is to place under tongue for sublingual x-fer, but this is not a proven technique IP: Logged |
whodaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 117) |
posted July 07, 2000 10:51 PM
I've only done a short cycle of Winny; injected 50mg eod. But don't you guys think that it would be much worse on your liver if you drink it? Normally, when people use oral stanzolol they only use about 20mg ed....I personally wouldn't drink 50mg of the shit. IP: Logged |
travis45 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted July 07, 2000 10:51 PM
I really need to know which is better. I am about to start taking it, which way is best. IP: Logged |
markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted July 07, 2000 10:56 PM
I just got my zambon amps today and I'm going to mix one each morning in a small water bottle and sip it all day long. I'm gonna shake it up real well before each sip. IP: Logged |
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 972) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:19 PM
markp! that makes absolutly no sense whatsoever....send um to me and ill administer them properly, with a 1" 25gauge syringe. ------------------ IP: Logged |
whodaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 117) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:23 PM
I personally would inject bro...I definately wouldn't chance wasteing some of it in the digestive process. This way if you inject, it will insure that none of the shit is lost on it's way through your system. Not to mention the fact that it's better on your liver. IP: Logged |
ectomorph Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 362) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:25 PM
If you've got real Winstrol V or real Zambon amps, when you shake it up it should mix so well that you can withdraw and inject w/an insulin needle in the delts w/little or no pain. Eat it if you want but it was manufactured for injection. Good Luck ------------------ IP: Logged |
D007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 567) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:27 PM
Inject it, unless you are stacking so many other things that the volume is uncomfortable. IP: Logged |
Ph4t Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 180) |
posted July 08, 2000 05:48 AM
What i've learned about drinking winny is that 1. it's just as effective because it is the same as the tabs 2. you are supposed to put them into gel caps and swallow them. IP: Logged |
B_Funk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 217) |
posted July 08, 2000 11:56 AM
Inject it if you like needles, drink it if you don't feel like being a pin cushion. Either way will work. IP: Logged |
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 416) |
posted July 08, 2000 12:00 PM
come on guys, if you don't want to inject buy the orals. In my personal opinion, drinking it and it will pass the liver twice, like the orals. Jeff ------------------ IP: Logged |
markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted July 08, 2000 12:20 PM
PH4T, how do you get them into gel caps? What do you need to do this and where can I get the equipment? IP: Logged |
DocJ Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 118) |
posted July 08, 2000 12:26 PM
Inject it, saves on the liver (you only get one) and you don't have to wonder if it was absorbed efficiently in your gut. ------------------ IP: Logged |
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 972) |
posted July 08, 2000 12:26 PM
JJJUST SHOOT IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
lethal59 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted July 08, 2000 01:33 PM
I'm with matty. Shooting is the best part next to the time you spend in front of a mirror that's why we do this. ------------------ IP: Logged |
lethal59 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted July 08, 2000 01:33 PM
I'm with matty. Shooting is the best part next to the time you spend in front of a mirror that's why we do this. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Roy Batty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 191) |
posted July 08, 2000 01:40 PM
matty um I mean Mr.Gladiator, is only posting to get his # of posts up to 1000. hehe just f*cking with you matty, good to see around. If the winny is the sterile kind, u know not the powder, inject it. IP: Logged |
tray renfro Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 657) |
posted July 08, 2000 01:47 PM
what the hall is the point to making more holes in your ass if you can aviod it, there is no difference in injecting and drinking it. Winstrol is meant to be taken orally, they made a injectable form so it would be easier to get into horses and dogs. go to your local vitemen store and pick up some gel caps(00 or 000) if you dont want to turn into a pin cushin. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Wesley PIPES Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted July 08, 2000 03:30 PM
LOCK, LOAD, & FIRE!!!!! IP: Logged |
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 491) |
posted July 08, 2000 04:08 PM
I'm really sick of this question. Can't we have a FAQ at the top of the discussion boards? The injectable is chemically IDENTICAL to the oral. But you are not being smart if you take 50mg of tabs EOD, so why would you do this just because it's now in liquid form? When you inject the winny, it SLOWLY diffuses out of the injection site over several days, so that at any moment during the day your body (and liver) is only having to deal with a few mgs of the stuff. This gives the injected version an effective half-life of around 24 hours, and also gives your body a constant supply of gear instead of a huge spike followed by almost no gear. If you drink 50 mg winny (or take 50mg tabs) it ALL hits your system very quickly, and is also eliminated quickly (half-life of 9 hours). This trashes your liver and means by the next time you drink your winny you have almost no winny left in yout system. CAPICHE? Inject 50 mg, amount of winny left at injection site: DAY 1 50mg Drinking the same winny DAY 1 50mg If you want to drink your winny then the method markp is going to use makes LOTS more sense. Keep the intake constant and you will get better results with less sides for your money. ------------------ IP: Logged |
tmm808 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted July 08, 2000 04:14 PM
i've done both, 50mg ed, much better results when i inject. IP: Logged |
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 416) |
posted July 08, 2000 04:35 PM
bump you MS Jeff ------------------ IP: Logged |
markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted July 08, 2000 05:38 PM
Putting the Winny in a small water bottle will make it very milky. If someone asks "how come your always sipping on that milky looking water?" you just tell them "Its my glutamine and creatine drink, why do you think I'm getting so RIPPED?!!!" IP: Logged |
dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 380) |
posted July 08, 2000 06:27 PM
Does anyone really know??? I have a bottle of Stan and I am shooting 50 EOD and drinking 50 EOD!!! Shooting once a day is way too many holes!! It always feels a little sore(the site) If the consensus is that shooting is more effective I will deal with the holes!! I am also on EQ so I am filled with holes and scar tissue!!! IP: Logged |
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 416) |
posted July 09, 2000 11:21 AM
Hi Dahmer, you can shoot 100 mgr EOD. Saving you 50 % of the holes, and not having to drink it. 12 weeks and shooting EOD gives you 42 shots. Some PGF2a users take more shots a week. And some combine this with roids. Jeff ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged |
travis45 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted July 09, 2000 12:58 PM
what if you injected 25mg in a gel cap and took it twice a day eod? IP: Logged |
B_Funk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 217) |
posted July 09, 2000 02:06 PM
Travis, that would work, but I would take 50mg ed. IP: Logged |
Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 925) |
posted July 09, 2000 02:35 PM
Guys, save your ass for sust and deca, not winny. Winny is too weak. 50mg is not a lot. that's 25 2mg pills a day of winny. We know that unless you take 15 pills or more of winny it's not going to do much. And i dont' know who came up with that formula... ------------------ IP: Logged |
MS Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 491) |
posted July 09, 2000 02:48 PM
Yeah, 100mg EOD (injected)is the way to go if you want to bump up your winny without the extra holes. ------------------ IP: Logged |
DocJ Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 118) |
posted July 09, 2000 06:21 PM
100mg EOD in the thigh, yeeahhhh!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
E-Toon Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18) |
posted July 10, 2000 03:08 PM
I have to agree with those saying to inject. Drugs taken orally are absorbed primarily in the stomach and intestine. Once a drug is absorbed through the lumen of the gastrointenstinal tract, it proceeds directly to tyhe liver via the hepatic portal vein. A given percentage of this drug will be metabolized by the liver. I personally do not know what percentage of Winny is lost following first-pass metabolism and I do not know if it's metabolites are active or not but any Winny that is metabolized, is unable to reach its receptor sites... and it's gone. Intramuscular injections allows the Winny to enter the bloodstream through blood vessels other than hepatic vessels, bypassing the first pass effect. Therefore, when you inject, you are A) increasing the percentage of the given dose of Winny that reaches the bloodstram and B)reducing the amount of drug that the liver must metabolize. The liver still had to metabolize Winny, but not as much, and , as MS stated, not all at once. It is therefore easier on the liver to inject it. I am on a SUS/ Winny EQ cycle, just started week 3, and I feel that things are starting to kick in a bit. With the EQ and Sust alone, I have 3 injections/wk. I have been alternating drinking with injections of Winny but f*ck it, from here on out, I'm going all injections. Yah I'm a freakin pin cushion already but I have so many places to stick. I'm rotating my sites.... I'm thinking of testicular injections next hah!!!! Later, Toon IP: Logged |
Ffactor Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted July 10, 2000 04:18 PM
I agree with whodaman and ms. if you drink it, it will go thorugh first pass, which is tough on your liver not to mention it is degraded more quickly. I would definitely inject. IP: Logged |
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