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SSMAN
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posted July 07, 2000 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
I recently finished my 10 week cycle of sust/reforvit/eq and wanted to share my results. For those who haven't been following along, here is what my cycle looked like:

CYCLE SUMMARY (10 weeks)

reforvit (weeks 1-5) 50,75,75,50,25mg/daily
reforvit (weeks 7-10) 75,75,50,25mg/daily
sust 1000mg/week (weeks 1-10)
ultragan 400mg/week (weeks 5-10)
clomid 100mg/day (weeks 12-13)
clomid 50mg/day (week 14)

Clomid (50mg) every other day throughout the cycle. This cycle was scheduled to run for 10 weeks, but I finished up a few days early. My body was telling me that it was time to recover

WEIGHT GAIN.....FINAL REPORT CARD:

START: 245 pounds
week 1: +10 pounds (255)
week 2: +18 pounds (263)
week 3: +23 pounds (268)
week 4: +26 pounds (271)
week 5: +30 pounds (275)
week 6: +34 pounds (279)
week 7: +39 pounds (284)
week 8: +44 pounds (289)
week 9: +48 pounds (293)
week10 +51 pounds (296)
END: 296 pounds

POST CYCLE

My post cycle plan is to retain as much of these gains as I possibly can. I'm eating very clean....at least 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight, and I've cut my fat intake to 15% of calories. At the end of this month I'll start cutting so I can find my abs again. For cutting I'll use winny, primo, clen, and cytomel. After shedding the water retention and fat, I'm targeting a lean 235 - 240 (that's assuming I can retain roughly 80% of my gains).

I have a full schedule for next year......I'll be competing in the following shows:

Gold's Classic San Diego BB
Orange County Muscle Classic
Border States XXIII BB & FItness
Ironman/Ironmaiden BB & Fitness

I have enough time left to hit one more hard bulking cycle, then it will be time to start contest prep (just after the first of the year). I'll keep you posted on how things go post cycle.......and you'll be seeing these posts again when I start cutting in a few weeks. The weight will be going the other direction though

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jc21
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posted July 07, 2000 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jc21   Click Here to Email jc21     Edit/Delete Message
glad it worked out for u so well. i was just wondering how tall u are? and i wanna see some pics from the contests, when u do them.

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matty
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posted July 07, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for matty   Click Here to Email matty     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74082278
I dont get it?? you said you started at 245 and you want to cut back down to 240??? what was the point in putting on 50 odd pounds?

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The Ranger
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posted July 07, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Ranger   Click Here to Email The Ranger     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 67366885
We're Not Worthy!!...We're Not Worthy!!...We're Not Worthy!!...Heh heh heh....Once again SSMAN.....You are the Fuck'in MAN!!!!!!!!!!

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HeavyLifterX
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posted July 07, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
Those results are great bro, and to think, we were all argueing about that cycle when you started it way back. We all thought it would be too much, and look at you now bro. Great Work, and good luck on stage.

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SSMAN
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posted July 07, 2000 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
I'm 6' tall......and I will post a series of pics after I finish my cutting cycle. Contest pics will be coming next year

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ex-infantry
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posted July 07, 2000 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ex-infantry   Click Here to Email ex-infantry     Edit/Delete Message
SSMAN, great gains!! i followed your updates every week and i have to say how impressed i was. how you delt with the sides and altered your intake of calories and juice(ref-b). you put on 51lbs. very intelligently. nice work bro!

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SSMAN
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posted July 07, 2000 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Matty.....I pre-cycle I was 245 at 15% body fat. That means I had a lean mass of 208 pounds. Currently I'm at 296 carrying 14.8% body fat (44 pounds!!) and about 10 pounds of water. That leaves me with a lean mass of 242. Assuming I can maintain 80% of my muscle gains from this cycle (which is attainable) I'm targeting 240, but much leaner. 240 at 6% is a far cry from 240 at 15%

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charlie
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posted July 07, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70980501
SSMAN That is absolutly brilliant!
You must be very happy with the gains you have made!
I hope to achieve very similiar results although that is gonna take some beating!
I have never been 300 pound but for me it is the objective!
If i dont achieve it with this cycle of eq,di,and prop then ill achieve it with my next cycle already planned out with growth!
Once again amazing results!
All the best.
c.t

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Fish
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posted July 07, 2000 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish   Click Here to Email Fish     Edit/Delete Message
very impressive. Good luck with cutting and showing.

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Thick dog
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posted July 07, 2000 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
It really doesn't get any better than that. Outstanding work. My cycle ends this week and I'll post my results Monday. They are not quite as dramatic, but I am happy. I'm already planning my next cycle, which I'll do in a few months. I'm sure you'll retain a great deal of your gains as you obviously know what your doing.

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2Thick
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posted July 07, 2000 03:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
You might want to think about some HCG.

Also, you will want to take 10mg/day of Nolva for 2 weeks, or 20mg/day for 7 days and 10mg/day for the next 7 days.

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Jeff_rys
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posted July 07, 2000 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
bump

Jeff

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DREXX
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posted July 07, 2000 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DREXX   Click Here to Email DREXX     Edit/Delete Message
Way to go SSMAN!

You are very extreme and hardcore. I really enjoyed reading your diaries and can't wait to read the others.

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2legit2quit
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posted July 07, 2000 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2legit2quit   Click Here to Email 2legit2quit     Edit/Delete Message
Wow!

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Thick dog
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posted July 07, 2000 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thick dog     Edit/Delete Message
SSMAN, I assume you've taken the dbol tabs in the past. How do you compare them to the Reforvit. I've done the Naposims and Thais, but never the Reforvit. I'm considering it in my next cycle, along with lots of test and EQ.

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JohnnyO
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posted July 07, 2000 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyO   Click Here to Email JohnnyO     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 11976789
SSMAN you need to be congradulated... That is very impressive. I'm glad that we have someone like you here to look up to and to count on when we need help.

John

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evissam
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posted July 07, 2000 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evissam   Click Here to Email evissam     Edit/Delete Message
Holy shit! Great gains, but how much of that is your liver? Do you ever get your enzymes checked with that much gear in your system? Just curious.

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scooby
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posted July 07, 2000 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scooby   Click Here to Email scooby     Edit/Delete Message

Bump for one killer cycle

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Ice Man
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posted July 07, 2000 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
Nice goin Bro! Good luck come show time!

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Kahn
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posted July 07, 2000 04:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kahn     Edit/Delete Message
WOW! Thats outrageous. What kind of things did you do for the sides prevention? How did you feel, attitude and healthwise?

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SSMAN
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posted July 07, 2000 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Thickdog....I have taken dbol tabs and they're very comparable to reforvit. I found reforvit to be slightly under-dosed, but when I jumped to 3 cc's per day I really felt the difference. It was more difficult to take my doses during the day, where dbol can be carried around and taken anywhere....but overall I'm very impressed with reforvit (especially for the cost).

Evissam.....I had regular visits with my doctor and was lucky enough to not experience any serious adverse effects. I took Milk Thistle and Primrose oil for my liver and cranberry extract for my kidneys. I drank 2 gallons of water daily, and maintained good overall health.

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SSMAN
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posted July 07, 2000 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SSMAN   Click Here to Email SSMAN     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74456922
Kahn.....I had many side effects to deal with during my cycle. I really feel I handled each one very well.

blood pressure....early in my cycle my BP shot up to 211/101. After a visit with my doctor, we decided to try a mild herbal diuretic to lose some water retention. I got a lot of negative feedback on this board for not going to perscribed medication....but a week later my BP was 155/83 doing things my way.

acne.....this was a contstant battle. Once again the masses were saying perscribed medication. I went with indoor tanning 20 minutes daily, Nuetrogena body clear body wash, 2-3 showers daily, and frequent wipe downs with rubbing alcohol. That combo worked wonders for me....only a blemish here and there.

kidney pain.....toward the end of my cycle I started experiencing some kidney pain. I started drinking pure cranberry juice, increased my water intake, and started taking cranberry extract......problem solved.

I constantly made adjustments to my training, cycle, and diet to reach my goal.....I couldn't be more pleased with the results

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bignate73
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posted July 07, 2000 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bignate73   Click Here to Email bignate73     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 65081685
you know what im gonna say bro....sick...just sick! hehe. good job, now its my turn. 51 lbs is a tall order. hmmmm....so i can still borrow that stomach of yours....hehe. good luck cutting down. i guess ill see you on the treadmill hehe.

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Yoda
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posted July 07, 2000 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yoda   Click Here to Email Yoda     Edit/Delete Message
Well I for one will miss the updates, LOL!!! Great job Bro, most would be happy with 1/2 the gains you got. I'm starting my thrid week and I'm not getting much bigger yet, only gained 8 pounds so far on the scale and have actually lost body fat so I'm obviously not eating enough. Have only been on the D-bol for 7 days though, the Omnadren is just starting to kick in!!!! I'll keep you guys posted starting next week.

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ThePitbull
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posted July 07, 2000 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ThePitbull   Click Here to Email ThePitbull     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75689837
Holy fuck! 50+ pounds

That is unreal. Your the man bro!

Pitbull

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Parabellum
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posted July 07, 2000 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Parabellum   Click Here to Email Parabellum     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 78471720
You're the man.

I'm going to print this and staple it to the wall for motivation!!!!

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bgriff
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posted July 07, 2000 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
congrats bro!!! real nice gains!!

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gamer
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posted July 07, 2000 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
SSMAN
This is probably the most thoroughly and articulated cycle I have seen. You have great discipline and a good head on your shoulders. Great job and stay healthy and good luck in your contests.

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gearface
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posted July 08, 2000 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
Ssman,
Bro your cycle, udates, diet,dedication and results are the best i've seen since I started coming around this board in february of this year. Your cycle has been an inspriration to me and instead of "I wanna be like Mike" its more like "I wanna be like Ssman".My hat's off to you. Good luck with the cutting and contests. Later bro.

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rippazoid
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posted July 08, 2000 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rippazoid   Click Here to Email rippazoid     Edit/Delete Message
hey ssman got a couple of q's for you. first im taking off competing this year to put on more size,(currently 5'11" 206 with 61/2 bf) im gonna do a nat'l qualifier next march. i am about to start my first bulk cycle this year and plan to start another about mid nov. how long will you wait to start your comp cycle after your next bulk cycle? will you go directly into it? and will you be able to keep most of your size w/o a high androgen for 5-6 weeks mixed in your comp cycle?

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kram696969
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posted July 08, 2000 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kram696969   Click Here to Email kram696969     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 15497701
good fuck'in work bro

kram-mark
just do'in my best...

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kram696969
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posted July 08, 2000 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kram696969   Click Here to Email kram696969     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 15497701
good fuck'in work bro

kram-mark
just do'in my best...

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YellowD98
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posted July 09, 2000 12:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for YellowD98     Edit/Delete Message
You're a fucking monster bro. Real nice work.

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juiced
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posted July 09, 2000 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juiced   Click Here to Email juiced     Edit/Delete Message
You must feel like a fucking monster. Is your wardrobe designed to fit the guy you are now. I am going to start my first cycle here in a bit and I would like to put on some bulk. But fuck shit piss it is going to be expensive to buy me a new wardrobe. But I am going to get rowdy with the cycle anyways

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