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nahanrac
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 07, 2000 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nahanrac   Click Here to Email nahanrac     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys. I had to re-register, it's been so long I couldn't remember my shit. I've posted here, but it's been about a 1 1/2 yrs ago. I thought I wanted to get some gear, but then I started second guessing myself and changed my mind. I have obligations that submit me to random drug tests, and that was a big part of it. Now I realize they don't even test for AS. So, now I'm ready. I've been reading posts for a while now, trying to make sure I don't ask a dumb ass question and get flamed. You guys are ruthless!
First of all, how would I go about finding a doctor to prescribe something for me? I am in OK.
Second, I have a stack put together that sounds good from what I've read. I want to put on about 20lbs of lean mass at the most this first time, I don't want to raise suspicion. Plus, I'm only 5'7, so 20 lbs is alot.
Here it is:

Week Sus 250 Primobolan deca clomid
1 250 200 200
2 250 200 200
3 250 200 400
4 250 200 400
5 250 200 200 50/ed
6 250 200 200 50/ed
7 50/ed
8 50/eod

I know this is probably what you guys would consider mild, but I can't just swell up in a month, I'll get caught. A little more info on me. I'm 22, 5'7, 155 lbs, 8% bf.
A friend is going to do the same cycle, he's 21, 5'5, 155 lbs. So, what do you guys think? Sorry for the long post, I have alot of questions. Thanks for any info.

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thiassi
Pro Bodybuilder
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posted July 07, 2000 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for thiassi   Click Here to Email thiassi     Edit/Delete Message
I think the stupid question is the one not asked. So what if you get flamed if you get the information you need. If you don't get the information, then delete your post and change it till you do.
Your not going to find a doc to give you roids. There might be a few but the odds are against it. At least in OK you can buy the needles over the counter at WalMart. The clomid, if you only want to take it at the end of your cycle is; one week after the last shot, 2 a day for one week then one a day for a week.

L8R

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ulter
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posted July 07, 2000 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ulter   Click Here to Email ulter     Edit/Delete Message
thiassi your back! Captain America was looking for you.

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nahanrac
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 07, 2000 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nahanrac   Click Here to Email nahanrac     Edit/Delete Message
Is taking the clomid a week after the last shot more beneficial? I guess it would at least save me some much needed cash. I just wanted to get started on it early, i have to admit i'm a little nervous about getting all out of balance. I value my balls. Thanks for the quick reply

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Ice Man
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posted July 07, 2000 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ice Man   Click Here to Email Ice Man     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's fine. I gained 22lbs on less gear than that, just Primo and Deca. You can expect some ball shrinking though. Your body will sense the Sus and cut your natural Test production down. Just take the Clomid and don't worry about it though.

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nahanrac
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posted July 07, 2000 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nahanrac   Click Here to Email nahanrac     Edit/Delete Message
bump

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HeavyLifterX
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posted July 07, 2000 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
Take the clomid as follows:

50mg eod throughout the whole cycle. 100mg eod for 2 weeks after the cycle, you will be fine.

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nahanrac
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted July 07, 2000 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nahanrac   Click Here to Email nahanrac     Edit/Delete Message
What about the sus? Do i even need to mess with it? I can't gain more than 20 lbs in 6 weeks, and i think that would be pushing it. I'm sure people will wonder what happened when I'm suddenly 20 lbs bigger. Will just the primo and deca work? If i go with that, should i use clomid throughout, or just at the end? thanks guys

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HeavyLifterX
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posted July 07, 2000 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, you will be fine without the sus. It really isn't enough too mess with anyway. For solid gains stay with the deca and primo.

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BigCatratcho
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posted July 07, 2000 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message

I'd do something like this, same stuff, different dosage:

sus/primo/deca/cloey
500/xxx/400/50 eod
250/xxx/400/50 eod
250/xxx/300/50 eod
250/300/300/50 eod
250/300/300/50 eod
250/300/xxx/50 eod
xxx/300/xxx/50 eod
xxx/xxx/xxx/100ed
xxx/xxx/xxx/50ed

I'd use the primo towards the end of the cycle to help you come off the Androgens, and psychologically, it will help by keeping the strength shooting up while the water weight from the Deca goes away. Adding 250 of Sus at the beginning will help build up your test totals. The sus tapers up and down, so the added amp will still come on slowly (like three weeks before the sus shows up) the Deca will show signs the soonest, and the primo will develop slowly, too.

I don't think you'll raise suspicion if you wear baggy clothes. And, eat lots of protein. Lots and lots and lots.

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nahanrac
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posted July 07, 2000 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nahanrac   Click Here to Email nahanrac     Edit/Delete Message
I think I'll leave the sus out this time. I can't wear baggy clothes, I'll be in uniform. Thanks for the help guys. Anyone here in Oklahoma? I have a few more questions.

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