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 Alcohol and winny
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markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 06, 2000 10:05 PM
  
Don't flame me but... I always drink heavy once a week at a bar or club. It has never slowed my gains (probably because I stick with 0 carb drinks like vodka and scotch). Should I stop If I start a 50mg/day winny cycle? I know drinking the winny is really harsh on the liver? IP: Logged |
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bb4424 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 44) |
posted July 06, 2000 10:07 PM
the most trouble i ever got in in my life was getting drunk while juicing!...it did not mix with me and i hurt some people...give up the drinking while juicin, jail sucks. IP: Logged |
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markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 06, 2000 10:18 PM
besides rage problems, are there any serious physical problems I should worry about? Damn bro, what did you do? IP: Logged |
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D007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 557) |
posted July 06, 2000 11:02 PM
first off why would you want to avoid carbs if your cycling. second vodka and scotch have carbs in fact , unless your in ketosis your body processes alcohol the same as carbs except alcohol has 7 calories per gram. IP: Logged |
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markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 06, 2000 11:24 PM
I'm not on a low carb diet. I just wanted to mention the fact that while I've been natural, drinking heavy on the weekends hasn't disrupted my gains (lifting 5 days a week). I just wanted to know if thats something I should avoid with a 17aa liver harmfull AS such as winstrol? [This message has been edited by markp (edited July 06, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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B_Funk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 201) |
posted July 07, 2000 02:15 AM
To answer you question, yes drinking alcohol while on winny would be very hard on your liver. The winny by itself is very toxic, let alone with alcohol added to it. If you're not already, I would get some milk thistle, and stay away from the alcohol. IP: Logged |
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markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 07, 2000 08:28 AM
Just curious about this liver thing... Can you feel stress on your liver? I mean, does it ever hurt? Are there certain symptoms that you notice when your liver is really stressed? IP: Logged |
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jdismukes Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted July 07, 2000 08:47 AM
Yeah, bro your liver can swell. Why do you feel the need to drink heavy? That is one of the worst things you can ever do to yourself, you only have one liver and they don't have artifical livers, so once you fuck that one up your dead! I work in the medical feild. Not to get in your business, but if you want to try to stop drinking give me a mail. IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 384) |
posted July 07, 2000 08:52 AM
First it shows in your looks. You can get that tired look, very tired as if you didn't had enough sleep. Since it is only once a week you could shoot your Winny (since you drink your alcohol, haha) the same morning you go out. The next shot should be 2 days later, if you do it EOD. IF you take Winny ED, then why not skip the day after your night out. At least your liver gets the change to recuperate from the liquor. Jeff ------------------ IP: Logged |
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markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 07, 2000 08:56 AM
Oh well, i'll stop drinking  for the cycle. One last thing, should I do clomid during or after or both to keep natural test levels up? Can I do tribulus instead?[This message has been edited by markp (edited July 07, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 384) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:31 AM
no need for Clomid or Nolvadex with Winny. Jeff ------------------ IP: Logged |
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markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:43 AM
Thanks for everyones help. You guys kick some serious ass. WOOOOHOOOO, can't wait to start my cycle. I get my gear today. Its like christmas in July  IP: Logged |
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Buld0g Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 70) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:50 AM
B-funk...How effective do you think milk thistle is. I mean if you had to rate it's cancer killing effects from 1 to 100, what would you say. Thanks bro IP: Logged |
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markp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 07, 2000 04:37 PM
besides milk thistle, is there anything else good for the liver? I remember seeing something about vitamin E. IP: Logged |
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B_Funk Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 201) |
posted July 07, 2000 06:52 PM
Buldog, I couldn't give you an answer as to how effective milk thistle is. Maybe one of the other bros or a mod could help out. As far as other things you can take to help out your liver, this is a list that E2 made a while back: Standardized silymarin 160 mg + 3x/day Evening primrose oil 1300 mg 2x/day Alpha lipoic acid 100 to 200 mg 3x/day Glycyrrhizinate Forte 1 capsule 3x/day N-acetyl cysteine 600 mg 3x/day Glutamine powder 2g to 12g 3x/day (1 heaping teaspoon = 4g, 1 hpg tablespoon = 12 grams) Omega 3 fatty acids 2 to 3 capsules 3x/day Lung Tan Xie Gan Chinese herb formula - as directed IP: Logged |
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GAAV KOSH Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1) |
posted July 07, 2000 06:54 PM
MARK, TRY LIVERITE, YOU CAN FIND IT AT GNC. IT'S SUPPOSED TO DETOXIFY THE LIVER, AND IS A GOOD HELP FOR THOSE HEAVY DRINKING OCCASIONS. IP: Logged |
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ajc1977 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 240) |
posted July 07, 2000 07:11 PM
Wouldn't drinking with most types of AS cause Kidney problems as well? IP: Logged |
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gamer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:28 PM
Do yourself a favor and get some GHB and settle with that for your ten weeks. It's not worth messing your health up. If not I feel sorry for your liver. IP: Logged |
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musclegear Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 104) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:47 PM
I'm with gamer, if you absolutely have to get messed up during a cycle just get some GHB (which will increase your natural production of GH) or smoke some pot (which will increase your appetite!). IP: Logged |
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Ph4t Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 178) |
posted July 08, 2000 05:50 AM
What are the side effects of GHB.. all the places i've read up about GHB have been sites to promote kits so there isn't much about how bad the stuff is for you. IP: Logged |
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