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 is omnadren the same as sus
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sean Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted July 05, 2000 10:18 PM
  
i saw the post about omna a few days ago and a lot of people on the board said its the same as sus and it rocks.then i went to the drug profiles on anabolix.com and it said omna leads to much more water retention and youll smothe out among other neg effects and there profle on sus sounds great.also 2 of the 4 tests are different than sus so how is it the same? IP: Logged |
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Bossman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 331) |
posted July 05, 2000 10:19 PM
The new omna is exactly the same thing as sus, all four tests. ----------- Bossman IP: Logged |
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T-BONE Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 234) |
posted July 05, 2000 10:20 PM
It used to be different, but it is the same now. IP: Logged |
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scooby Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 84) |
posted July 06, 2000 12:54 AM
Same exact thing. IP: Logged |
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big_guy1 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1116) |
posted July 06, 2000 12:57 AM
omna used to contain two different ester of test, awhile back they changed their formula..now it's the same as sus... big-guy IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 06, 2000 01:05 AM
I started receiving my Omna's today and was wondering about them?? The label are all removed(I was notified about this from the beginning) I have one with a label. All the amps are different sizes??(the amp) I thought the new Jelfas were made a little better. It reminds me of the Nile Sust. Are these real?? Anyone else have various sized amps?? The oil level is the same in all amps. They all have the white dot and score mark. I am just worried because the original sample looked perfect and these look kinda shitty. Anyone?? I have a million coming and would hate to have a milion fakes. IP: Logged |
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Bubba Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 14) |
posted July 06, 2000 01:33 AM
My amps of Omni are all the same size, from Jelfa in a pink and white box. The amps are 5 to a box all the same size in a cardboard innercase to hold them stable. The labels are white stick on and hard too remove. I don't know exactly how too tell what are fakes but yours are definitely different then mine. Check some pics on the net bro. IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 06, 2000 02:57 AM
all the amps should be uniform.....you've been screwed bro. IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 06, 2000 08:18 AM
Are you sure?? Why would this source go through all the trouble and EXCELLENT packaging just to send fake shit?? If it were fake why would he have it so well hidden? I ordered many amps. He is send 12 a pop. Don't get me wrong the amps are very close. They just aren't exactly the same. They still have the glue residue on them from labels. They all have the white dot with the score mark underneath. The oil levels are all the same. They are straight from Poland. Don't the real ones cost nothing over there. I also heard there were not any fakes of Omna because they cost nothing in Poland for the real deal. He sent me a SAMPLE first and told me that he HAD to remove labels to ship. If you saw the packaging you would understand. Any input??? Like I said I have many more coming. Are the tests for sust the same for Omna??? Like te taste test?? I understand that it might only show that test is present but, what kind?? My friend had amps of sust250 that were claimed to be only cyp. They all passed the numb tongue test. IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 06, 2000 08:45 AM
well,try the freezer test, it might work. anyway i've had 1000's of omnas pass through my hands and they have always been the same size....the new amps with the white dot are legit but i dont know if the size is any different..i will know tomorrow morning as i have a bunch comming in. tell your source to leave the labels on for chrissakes....customs wont fuck with a package that has 12 amps in it...trust me. IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 06, 2000 09:12 AM
That's his deal(no labels) There is glue residue though. The very tips of some of the amps are funny looking. Most of them taper some of them slightly bubble out. maybe I am bing too critical. The freezer test never works. Plain oil will turn cloudy when chilled!!! Test always nubs the tongue. I will taste one when I get home tonight. IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 06, 2000 09:16 AM
real omna always turns cloudy...i've seen counterfeits and they dont IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 06, 2000 09:23 AM
The fakes that don't, are they filled with oil?? And they don't turn cloudy?? What do I do?? Place an amp in the freezer?? How long ang what do I look for?? Does the taste test work?? Holy shit! You have me all worried now. I think I am going home right now!!! IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 06, 2000 09:24 AM
If they are fake, I will post this dudes name on every site known to man!!! There may be a killing in Poland!!! IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 06, 2000 09:32 AM
put one in the freezer...actually one of each type for ten minutes...they should turn cloudy. if they are fake i will kill him for you- i'm in warsaw...there arent really any true fakes here but they could be enanthate 100mg, prop 10mg, 25mg, 100mg, retabolil 50mg, superanabolon (durabolin) 25mg or anything else thats cheaper...even b12 [This message has been edited by coolhandluke (edited July 06, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 06, 2000 09:38 AM
Will these semi-real ones turn cloudy also?? Or only the real ones turn. If they are semi-real will any gains be realize if using?? IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 07, 2000 12:49 AM
I put three different amps in the freezer for about five minutes they all turned cloudy. It looks like they hardened up!!?? Would you say they passed. But I am positive the amps are not very uniform. They are all a little different. But they all turned cloudy. Does the taste test work???(numb tongue) IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 07, 2000 12:52 AM
On e2's site the pics of the new Omna have different tapers in the tips. Just like mine. This is really killing me!!! IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted July 07, 2000 06:51 AM
HEHEHE calm down bro, there is only one real way to test if the omna is legit, do what i'm doing - a straight 500mg/5days omna cycle for 8 weeks and then you should order bulk if you see good results. I have the same reservations like you about this guy but dahmer you must admit he is very good and very professional and at these prices who would want to pass it up. If these are fake then they are the best fakes I have ever seen.  IP: Logged |
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Kry Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 146) |
posted July 07, 2000 08:38 AM
I don't believe in the freezer test because even if there is a slight amount of test in them it will turn cloudy, tounge test is the one I use IP: Logged |
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Dexter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 644) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:10 AM
No labels. That is very strange in my opinion. Customers need more than blind faith in their source. They need the information to be sure in their minds that the product is legitimate. Labels help provide that information. Dexter ------------------ IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:25 AM
To anyone who has dealt with "him". You wouls know why he takes labels off. The way the amps are shipped is a full proof way. He also breaks up large orders and that way there is nothing to worry about. The only thing I am worried about is if they are real. If they were fake, why would they still have residue from the labels on them?? Wouldn't the amps be clean??? Have yo gained on 500 a week. In Oct I was planning a bulking cycle with 750 a week. if they are not 100% or just another kind of test. I will dump them and get myself another type like redijects?? I will taste one today!! IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:38 AM
look man, he is obviously hiding something. the fact that the amps are different sizes should be proof that some at least are fake. sure they have glue from the previous labels on them but so what? the old label could ahve said propionate 10mg. just tell him to send them withthe labels....cus\toms will not check little packages from poland for chrissakes!!!! and if they find amps without labels you can bet your ass they will test them to find out what they are.... IP: Logged |
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Roy Batty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 188) |
posted July 07, 2000 12:55 PM
coolhandluke, You seem to know your shit when it comes to omna so I have a question for you. A buddy of mine keeps emailing me about Omnadren in a green/white box with the "jelfa" in the upper portion of the box. Amps are uniform and have greenish silkscreen type writing. I've never bought Omna so I don't know what to tell him, he shit when the box was green instead of pink. What can I tell him about them? IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 07, 2000 01:10 PM
roy- they are fake. IP: Logged |
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Roy Batty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 188) |
posted July 07, 2000 01:28 PM
coolhand, thanks man, he's gonna shit, and someone might get hurt, so I hope you're right hehehe. IP: Logged |
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Roy Batty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 188) |
posted July 07, 2000 03:09 PM
COOLHAND, THESE ARE FAKE? OR ARE THEY JUST THE OLD FORMULA? IP: Logged |
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Dexter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 644) |
posted July 07, 2000 04:23 PM
I've never seen that bloody green box or those Omna amps, and I've seen thousands and thousands of Omna amps. It it is in fact the old formula...well, then it's old. In my opinion, any competent source can ship amps without first having to remove the labels, also. How well they appear to be packaged is an important consideration I'll admit. Dexter ------------------ IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 07, 2000 04:28 PM
The amps look so mundane without labels and in the packaging. If they were opened customs would probably let them right through. If they had labels they would definately be seized!!! Is everyone sure that theamps should be uniform??? Look at E2's site they are different too. They all passed but, that doesn't mean shit. What good is shooting if they are only cyp. IP: Logged |
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Kahn Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 570) |
posted July 07, 2000 04:40 PM
Those look more like water than an oil to me. IP: Logged |
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td24 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 55) |
posted July 07, 2000 07:58 PM
someone else has had to deal with this guy besides dahmer and I, please help!!!!! IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:34 PM
Dahmer i've been on my 550mg/5days for 2 and a half weeks now,no gains yet but It usually takes about 3 weeks to kick in. Only one problem, I know a few other bro's that have got omnas from "him" they report no great results so far but none of them are halfway through their cycle yet even so it doesn't instil great confidence in you does it? Here are a few points: 1.No labels on amps, but shipped seperately 2.Amps not uniform size. 3.Omna is supposed to sting at the injection site but Ifeel nothing??? 4.Perfume smell? maybe i'm imagining it. 5.Does not numb toungue but tingles a little, any chemical compuond will do this. I think we should e-mail him with these points, he's away for a few days though. IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 07, 2000 09:43 PM
Fuckin GREAT!!!! This sucks!!! No stinging??? If the formula is the same as Sust it WILL sting!!! Even the Nile Sust makes my tongue numb as hell. No one has made gains yet??? This is bad. Coolhand lives in Warsaw. I say we all verify the amps then it's time to bring the PAIN!!! I should have stayed domestic. I had someone who was able to do 7or8 an amp domestically. This fucker did 6 an amp and said next time he could do 5. The price is good, but the gear is not. IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:10 PM
sounds liek a fucker...anyone wanna tell me via email who it is...? also, customs will surely check the amps out...what do you think would if customs seized a bunch of white pills? no, they dont say dbol on them but they would check them out anyway.....not to mention the fact that very little otc medication comes in amps... IP: Logged |
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1 Mistake Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 220) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:16 PM
Roy- Those are 100% fake- That sucks. The writing on the box will never be in English (except the word Omnadren)Jelfa never made green print IP: Logged |
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cowbell Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 455) |
posted July 07, 2000 11:50 PM
yes the new is the same as sus. IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 08, 2000 12:45 AM
Coolhandluke, you have mail!!!! Is anyone really sure they are fakes??? If so, let the suffering begin!!! IP: Logged |
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Dexter Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 644) |
posted July 08, 2000 08:07 AM
I'm sorry, Bro's. I keep thinking about this thread; it's like a bad dream. I can understand breaking up the order into small packages. Standard procedure. I can understand concealing the amps in various items. Also standard procedure. But I can't understand the rationale for stripping off the freaking labels. To customs, an unlabeled amp is as suspicious as, or even more so, than a labeled amp. Hope your stuff is real, Dahmer. Dexter ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Roy Batty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 188) |
posted July 08, 2000 09:59 AM
1Mistake, Yeah. I must not be clickin on all cylinders or something to have missed that. This pic is from a "profile library" but is the same as what 6, my bud has had offered to him for sale. I don't even think the gym "dealer" knows they are fakes to be honest. He's not exactly a big brain. Needless to say we will not be making a purchase of these. IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 08, 2000 11:34 AM
Hey Dexter, The labels are not a real big concern for me. If you saw the way they were packaged you would understand. The troubles are the lack of gains, no stinging injection site, perfume smell??, no real numbing of tongue. I just got am e-mail from him(source) I wonder what he has to say?? IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted July 08, 2000 03:15 PM
I do not want to say they are fake unless i'm 100% certain but we should keep everyone posted on this so BUMP!!!  IP: Logged |
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coolhandluke Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 843) |
posted July 08, 2000 09:50 PM
well, i'm 100% certain...they are bunk... IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 09, 2000 12:43 AM
I asked the source about all these questions. He had plenty to say. First he said all the boxes and labels will be sent after all the blank amps are sent. he claimed that the only reason some of the amps were different was because of seperate boxes with different lot numbers. He said there are almost NO fakes of that shit in Poland. He also wanted reponses from other cutomers. He claimed that his rep wasn't worth selling fakes. He wants a continued relationship with customers and that could only happen selling good shit!!! Finally he said, if I was really unhappy, send the amps back and he will refund 70% of my cash. The other 30% will be for all his trouble and his shipping costs. So, everyone on this board who has bought from "J" e-mail his ass!!! And ask those same questions. Fuck it!! I am going with Duratest. No fakes yet!! At least I hope not!!! IP: Logged |
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ChaosXL Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted July 09, 2000 01:25 AM
Well Bros lets hear from everybody who bought from the same source (List your Results!) Within a few days we should know how well this SOURCE can be trusted. Lets keep the thread open. "Reinventing the Steel" IP: Logged |
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ChaosXL Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 4) |
posted July 09, 2000 03:10 AM
Hey, Come on mods??? What do you guys have to say about this??? IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted July 09, 2000 06:30 AM
BUMP for some answers. IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 09, 2000 03:37 PM
I talked to another cutomer/victem? and he tried one amp today. he said it ws fine going in but, it is getting more sore by the hour!!! I think this os good news. I know for a fact it passed the freezer test. It seems to have passed the sore injection test. Has anyone made any real gains(sust-like gains) from this dudes gear??? Like I said I have plenty more on the way!!! IP: Logged |
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matr1x Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 135) |
posted July 09, 2000 07:08 PM
Dahmer I don't want to put a downer on things but injecting anything will be sore and the feezer test is not anything to go by, any type of oil will go cloudy in the freeze - try vegetable oil! Anyway BUMP for any good news! IP: Logged |
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El_Ess_Dee_25 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 132) |
posted July 09, 2000 08:48 PM
Hey i alsow just bought some Polish Omn and the amps i got were different sizes,well most of them were the same.the amps have no paper labels on em just printing on em that yu can rub off and instead of a dot it has a ring around it.anyone know if those are real?another thing id liek to know is is each boxes lot # different?like 1 box will have 5 amps of the same lot #? cause i have 8 amps with the same lot #.another thing is is test what makes your toungue numb?cause eaven if the omn makes it numb it coulod only be one test in it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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dahmer Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 378) |
posted July 09, 2000 09:14 PM
Hey matr1x, I don't mean a little sore!! And not everything makes you sore!! I am shooting Eq every three days and it doesn't hurt at all. Anyone who has shot sust knows the soreness associated with it. It isn't soreness from the pin, it's from the test in it. The guy I spoke to said it was that same feeling. I understand that oil turns cloudy but, not like test. Tests in a oil will turn cloudy. Thsi test only shows that some test is in the substance, who knows how much?? My source contacted me and told me that it should kick in around three weeks. He said he gets them from a very reliable source. The have to be real. He also said if I wanted my money back, to tell him now, before he sends anymore amps. I told him to send away. Fuck it. It's obvious that no one really knows for sure about these amps. Alot of people here seem to have bought from him. has anyone seen results yet??? IP: Logged |
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El_Ess_Dee_25 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 132) |
posted July 10, 2000 01:17 AM
hey i had some sustenon that i was shooting and i didint get sore from it....does that mean its fake? and are all the testastrones supposed to make you sore or hurt?i did get hard from i but as for results i dunno cause i stacked it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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El_Ess_Dee_25 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 132) |
posted July 10, 2000 01:18 AM
hey i had some sustenon that i was shooting and i didint get sore from it....does that mean its fake? and are all the testastrones supposed to make you sore or hurt?i did get hard from i but as for results i dunno cause i stacked it. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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