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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:21 PM
  
Ok, I've done my homework so don't flame me for this one.Does nolvadex hinder your gains while on a cycle? Some say yes others no, I would like some input from experienced lifters who have experimented with their gains on and off the nolvadex.Also i read in pump magazine that 3 clenbuteral tabs a day while on a cycle will help put your body in a better nitrogen balance thus better utilization of protein intake,which is supposed to mean 30-35% better gains on your cycle as well as fat loss.Is this true?the same article says that t-3 has the same effect. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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SSMAN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 746) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:35 PM
I use nolvadex only if signs of gyno are present. There is more to consider than hindering your gains. Why put the additional stress on your body by taking another drug if it isn't needed? Consider general health when planning cycles. T3 will cause significant loss of muscle if not stacked with a mild AS. It sounds like you're trying to find the best of both worlds....cutting and bulking. Do your physique a favor and keep them as they should be.....separate. IP: Logged |
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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:40 PM
I'm not really worried about the fat loss while I'm on a cycle,its just that high dosages of test seem to bring out the gyno monster in me and I want to keep the amount of fat in the nip area at a minimum.The clen question was to see if its true,it seems to me that if it works then you would be getting the maximum benifit from your cycle. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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HeavyLifterX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 134) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:45 PM
Nolvadex does have antiestrogens which do block estrogen receptors which will decrease gains slightly. It is very hard to proove becasue the gains are minimal, but as ssman said, why introduce more drugs if they are not needed. Stick with clomid for gyno. ------------------ Work With Your Back And With Your Brain IP: Logged |
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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:48 PM
Will the clomid every other day be enough to ward off the gyno? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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HeavyLifterX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 134) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:49 PM
I have had great results with clomid, I take 50mg eod during my heavy test cycles and 100mg the last week of the cycle and the week after. If have never had problems with gyno and I have did 1000mg of test per week. ------------------ Work With Your Back And With Your Brain IP: Logged |
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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:55 PM
How was your immune system on a gram a week? I always tend to end up with a bad cold or sinus infection.It really pisses me off to get sick when things start going good. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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HeavyLifterX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 134) |
posted July 05, 2000 05:03 PM
bro, toward the end, your body lets you know it is time to stop. Usually, if I taper kind of slow and keep the clomid in, I do ok. See, the clomid makes your body start producing test again, because, and I know that you know this but I will say it anyway, when you take that much test, your body will not produce any on its own. When you stop, if you don't taper very slow, it will not start producing again. That is the reason for the symtoms you sometimes get, with the clomid, it will keep your natural test production up so when you come off, it will take you a lot less time to get your body chemistry regulated and the gyno will stay away. ------------------ Work With Your Back And With Your Brain IP: Logged |
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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 05, 2000 05:06 PM
By symptoms are you talking about getting sick or the gyno?? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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SSMAN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 746) |
posted July 05, 2000 05:06 PM
Heavylifter is right on.....use Clomid during your cycle to ward off the gyno monster. I just finished my cycle using reforvit 75mg/daily, sust 1000mg/week, and EQ 400mg/week. I used clomid at 50mg eod during my cycle......then 100mg/day for 2 weeks starting about 1 1/2 weeks after my last sust shot....then 50mg/day for another week. IP: Logged |
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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 05, 2000 05:13 PM
Thats pretty hardcore,I've only done about 5 8 week cycles and my heaviest was a gram of t-200 aweek and 100mgs of deca.But as usual about 4 weeks in I got a serious sinus infection that always drains into my lungs and had to stop cold turkey and take 1000mgs of antibiotics aday to clear it up. The antibiotics turned my skin into one big pimple for about 3 months till everything got out of my system. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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HeavyLifterX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 134) |
posted July 05, 2000 05:16 PM
You might want to look into a B12 or something like that for the sinus problems. I don't think the gear and the sinue problems are related but they could be, it might be something else that you are doing while on a cycle that you are not thinking about ie supplments or vitamins, you might be alergic to something. ------------------ Work With Your Back And With Your Brain IP: Logged |
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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 69) |
posted July 05, 2000 05:27 PM
I've got bad allergies and if I get ran down at all I get sick. I try to double up on the vitamins while I'm on.This is my first cycle in over a year so I'm crossing my fingers everythings good so far. I never really lost that much size or weight ,I'm 220, so I imagine I should get some good gains this go around... ------------------ IP: Logged |
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