posted July 04, 2000 12:25 PM            

I amnot doing this to be a bodybuilder. i am doing the powerlifting thing i guess. I just want to be strrronnnggg!

Ihave some testoviron depot and alot of naposim.

I want to get alot stronger. How can I cycle the two. Or, for what I want to do, should I just keep on the d-bol.

How many tabs a day should I do/ The test i have is in 250 mg. increments. I need some help on this. I want to get bigger and bigger etc... ... ..

Please reply.

posted July 04, 2000 08:32 PM            

Should I use the test or not.

If you can't give me the answers i need, then don't reply. I thought I came to this board for help. All you guys telling me to take 40-50 mg. a day can kiss my ass.

The simple fact is that if you lift heavy you gain strength. You can keep your sets of 12-15 at 225#. If you want to get power, fact stil remains that you go heavy, less reps, add more rest in between.

Also, it is not like I never touched weights before. So, since you have to criticize, go ahead.

I care not that you believe me. I just want an answer to my question. There is a big difference between me lifting for power and you guys lifting for cut and definition. also, there is no difference in taking 3 a day for 10 weeks and 5 a day for 8 weeks. A difference of 50 pills maybe.

So, if there is someone to answer my question please do.

posted July 04, 2000 10:14 PM            

Oh, yes, and by the way, I went into the posting for the how big is everyone, and to be honest, I figured all you guy taking all that gear in large quatities would be alot bigger.

I am phenomonally pleased with me results for what i did. I may not be at 5,6,7% bodyfat, but hey, I look good and am as strong as an ox.

So, please do't tell me I have to do 500 mg of this and 50mg of that and another 250 mg of something else.

Since you like to reply. can you just answer my question from above.

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posted July 04, 2000 10:55 PM            

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posted July 04, 2000 11:04 PM            

Just because you have 300 posts on this board and it says pro bodybuilder by your name, doesn't mean that you know what you are doing. i can sit ere for 8 hours and post a hundred time and get the pro status.

Simple fact is this, if you lift heavy you get strong. D-bol is for strength, mass, etc.

It is not to cut you up. So, you don't "bodybuild" on it. You power train on it.

You do the other gear to cut up.

Maybe you aren't getting those gains because you can' work out properly.

If you are doing 6 of anything, after 8 or 10 weeks you will see those kind of gains. as a matter of fact, more then that.

so, either your gear is weak, or crap, or you need a new workout routine. 3 days a week in the gym doesn't cut it bro. So, do me a favor and don't waste my time with your lame reply.

Thank you for your time also.

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posted July 04, 2000 11:09 PM            

I am interested in your guys' opinion on the gear. Not your opinion on me.

What I did for my gains is the truth. It doesn't matter what you think about it.

But, here is what I have. If you can help, you get my thanks.

I have 50 glass dealies of the testoviron, it is in 250 mg. increments. I have 350 naps leftand 400 clens.

I don't even know whatto do with the clen. Also, is the test depot I have good? It is made by schering.

Thanks if you can help.

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posted July 04, 2000 11:37 PM            

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posted July 05, 2000 12:12 PM            

Check your mail.

posted July 05, 2000 12:38 PM            

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"It is not the Horse that pulls the Cart, but the Oats."

posted July 05, 2000 12:44 PM            

I am off the cycle now. I am in my 6 weeks off deal. I didn't buy them clen. I got it from a bro who quit juicin'.

He took them with the d-bol and said he got fucked up on them. I heard not to take them together. So, since he gave them to me, I want to know how to use them and when to take them.

If I had to buy them I would not. i like the d-bol and am going to do it with testoviron depot on the next cycle.

thanks for the reply. Any suggestion?

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posted July 05, 2000 12:52 PM            

Good luck.

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"It is not the Horse that pulls the Cart, but the Oats."

posted July 05, 2000 12:58 PM            

Thanks alot. I appreciate it. I'll check it out.

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posted July 05, 2000 01:03 PM            

I only took 3 pills for 10 weeks. That isn't that bad compared to what I hear from others.

How much time off should I take? I was thinking 6-8 weeks.

What can I do while off to keep my gains a bit. Can I use creatin, or is that a waste?

Thanks!

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posted July 05, 2000 04:23 PM            

Yes it was my first cycle. Just decieded to do I got tired of all the time in the gym and not alot of gains. I'll swear by this stuff.

Thanks for yours guys help on this. Should I use clen when i am off, or at the end of a cycle?

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posted July 05, 2000 05:22 PM         

I think these results ARE attainable! I haven't seen any quite as drastic as this, but close...remember he took 10 WEEKS of dbol...thats a long time

Anyway, NO FLAME TO ANYONE, but sometimes some of you just need to step back a bit and not jump on someones case and immediately not believe them just because they post amazing results or size. This happens alot and really gets to me. We are all different and react differently to certain chemicals. I agree it does sound drastic, but possible!

And eastarr...snapping back at bros on the board will get you nowhere...if someone is being an ass just ignore them, someonelese will come along with help!

To answer you question:

I suggest 500mg of test for 8-10 weeks and dbol at 20-35mg/day for no longer than 5 weeks! Don't forget the clomid!

Good Luck!

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What goes around, comes around!

posted July 05, 2000 06:14 PM            

Thanks for the info bro. I do appreciate it.

I didn't mean to get on anyones case. I was just very excited agout my gains. They impressed me. Maybe I do react to chems better. I do well on creatine and alot of protein.

Anyways, there are alot of ood guys givin' me good advice. The best par of it is that it has allbeen close to the same. This shows me that I am getting good advice from some knowledgeable bros'.

You guys know who you are. Thanks to you and to your advice superman. Next time i think I'l throw in a pic. But, then the next thing I'll hear is, "That ain't you... ... ... " LOL.

I appreciate the advice.

another question. Anyone get some joint pain or shoulder pain on d-bol. Or, was that just lifting to heavy to often. I recouped very quick. Just occasional pain in the morning when I woke up.

Thanks!

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