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NoviceJuicer
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posted July 04, 2000 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoviceJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
I was reading the post re: Arnolds D bol useage. Since his arm size is off topic I started a new thread here.

"What about the farcical claims of forearms taping 17-18 inches on bodies of 220 LBS? Such claims exist - comb through some of todays body building magazines and you will find them. Consider that Bill Kazmaier, at 340 LBS, had forearms accurately measured at 17 1/2 inch by David Willoughby. bear in mind that Willoughby did not measure goose necked forearms with a slack tape and heavy dose of fiction.
disnhonest claims, even from the elite of the training world serve to dishearten hard gainers who are unaware of the fiction involved. What about claims of 21 inches and above for the upper arm girth? Arthur Jones is a man known for telling it like it is. In his BULLETIN # 2 he cites Olivas upper arm measureing 20 1/8 " cold and Arnolds slightly pumped arm filling the tape to 19 7/8. And their arm development is more visibly greater than many if not nearly all the modern day competitors who claim larger measurements.
Jones also measured the arms of other genetic superiors in their best condition : both Mike and Ray mentzer and Bill Pearl were at 18 5/8 inches. The difference between an 18 inch and 14 inch arm is enormous. Those who claim 22 " arms are, in effect, saying that the difference between theirs and Pearl's and Mentzer's is as clear as the difference between a 14 inch and 18 inch arm. Unless they are around 300 LBS of muscular bodyweight, who do they think they are kidding?" - excerpted from Brawn by Stuart McRobert.


Re: Arnold winning 6 or 7 Mr. Oly's - one could argue he only WON 6. He might have been given the 7 - as some suggest his condition was not deserving of a first place finish on his last win.

Re: Arnolds nuts - I do remember an interview he did on TV in or around 1982(?). The girl interviewing him asked if he was "big" all over, in otherwords if his genitalia was as big as his muscles. He said "No, I am actually rather small. many girls are dissappointed". However, since they were not specific - perhaps they were talking about his dick and not his testes.

[This message has been edited by NoviceJuicer (edited July 04, 2000).]

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Jeff_rys
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posted July 04, 2000 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
If I recall right, he was given the victory in 1972 also in Germany where normally Sergio Oliva should have won. His last victory should have gone to Mike Menzer (again if I recall right).


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Big Brother Val
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posted July 04, 2000 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
Brings up a good point. I often wonder about people's measurements, and the degree that they over exaggerate their size. Scott Steiner for example is said to have 26" guns. He's damn big... but 26 is INSANE!!

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Big Brother Val
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posted July 04, 2000 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Big Brother Val   Click Here to Email Big Brother Val     Edit/Delete Message
PS: Arnold still has the all time greatest physique in my opinion. His arms were incredible. I am attempting to reach his proportions, as I believe he looks better than any of todays over blown synthol packed posers.
My opinion. No offense to the fans of the gh bellies.

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MONSTROSITY
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posted July 04, 2000 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
A lot of arm size claims are just that, claims. Very few have been documented, and now with synthol(site injections w/oils) arm size measurements are a joke. Who would want big arms one day and they would be gone next week?

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MONSTROSITY
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posted July 04, 2000 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
Arnold had an awesome physique but his arms were far from 22 inches. It would be impossible at 6'1 230 lbs. I am the same heigth and 250 my arms are only 18 1/2 inches cold. My legs are bigger than Arnold's though, I met him 8 years ago in Sun Valley. He probably weighed around 215, very lean though. His calves were way jacked. Arnold's legs were small compared in comparison to the guys today. Arnold's non-huge legs made his upperbody look even more impressive. A lot of guys today have a physique that is dominated by the legs making the upperbody look smaller in proportion. I myself set no boundries in leg development, I want to push the tae well in to the 30's. You can't be a strong fuck with chicken legs.

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WCP
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posted July 04, 2000 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Lee Priest's arms are only 21" in the off season and 20" at contest time..but look your talking about a 5'4" frame too.

Alot has to do with how big your frame is.

Priest's arms on a guy 6'4" wouldnt look near as big.

Hell Im 5'8" and my guns are just a tad over 17" and people think I have big arms...heh..heh..heh...jokes on them..still alot left to go..

later,
WCP

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chestyII
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posted July 04, 2000 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
I have to disagree with the statement you cannot have 22 inch arms at 230 and 5'10 inches. I am 5'10", currently weigh 228 and have arms flexed after workout out that reach to 18 1/2, and will soon be close to if not 20 inches.

I have seen 22 inch arms and they are as impressive over 18 inch arms as 18 is over 14.

If I remember correctly at his peak Arnold was 225lbs, had around 22 iinch arms, 28 1/2 inch thighs, and 18 inch calfs, his waist was something like 27-28 inches.

Just because one cannot have a huge arm at a certain weight, does not mean another can't as well, that is why there are body builders out there.


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MONSTROSITY
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posted July 04, 2000 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
Why do people always quote pumped arm size??? There is a HUGE difference between pumped and cold. If I say my guns are 18.5 inches, then they're going to be 18.5 inches when I walk threw the mall, not 17.5. My point is........are you going to get a pump before you go out into public so you can tell everyone your arms are bigger than they really are. A pumped arm can easily account for an inch. Keep it simple and across the board.........measure your guns COLD.

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MONSTROSITY
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posted July 04, 2000 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
I know a lot of people don't want to talk about their COLD measurements. I guess their ego would take too much of a beating.

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the truth
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posted July 04, 2000 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the truth   Click Here to Email the truth     Edit/Delete Message
Chesty, that's a good point--some people can maintain large arms at a relatively low bodyweight. I saw Arnold on stage in his competitive days, however, and I do not think his arms were 22" (I'm guessing 20 1/2"). His waist was never as small as 28"--he claimed a 35" waist, which is believable. People thought he had a small waist because he did a lot of twisting poses to emphasize the fact that his waist depth (front to back) was pretty small, but his waist was fairly wide when viewed dead on. The leg measurements sound believable.

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chestyII
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posted July 04, 2000 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
My cold measurements are 1/4 inch less than pumped. If I say 18 1/2 pumped that is what I would be on stage. I have had 19+ no pump and two days out of the gym. Quoting a pumped arm or leg for that matter is no less valid than a cold arm.

What is your unflexed, cold, arm size? Does it matter? Why flex at all? We always pump up before going on stage, so why not use that measurement.

chesty

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chestyII
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posted July 04, 2000 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, his waist could have been much larger that is what I remember reading in a Muscle and Fitness a few years ago. My waist at contest time measures around 31 inches in a relaxed pose on stage.

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MONSTROSITY
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posted July 04, 2000 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
My waist is 21 inches and my back snaps in half when I try to squat my bodyweight.

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chestyII
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posted July 04, 2000 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chestyII   Click Here to Email chestyII     Edit/Delete Message
cute

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MONSTROSITY
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posted July 04, 2000 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MONSTROSITY   Click Here to Email MONSTROSITY     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 270
Sorry Chesty for my ignorance, I just figured out that you are a chick. Again, I am very sorry.........no wonder your waist seemed so small and feminine.

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NoviceJuicer
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posted July 04, 2000 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NoviceJuicer     Edit/Delete Message
By qouting the above reference text regarding Arnolds arms I am not trying to detract from Arnold. I think he is definately at least ONE of the greatests. And he is smart and personable. He made body building (and body builders) acceptable. By stating the truth does not diminish him. A 20 inch arm is huge. I probably will never see it myself. Arnold's the man. But the truth is impressive,...the mythology is a joke.

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E2
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posted July 04, 2000 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Well while i agree that most of the claims for huge arms today are exaggerated, people claiming to have 26" arms etc is just nuts. I don't agree that it's that hard to have large arms. Right now mine at 19.5" cold, but then again my arms have always been a one of my best parts.

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