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 It isn't just the baseballs that are juiced
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Beezers Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted July 03, 2000 11:15 AM
  
How many major leaguers do you think juice. There is no drug testing in the bigs and these guys make it look like thay are playing on little league sized fields. It sure as hell wasn't andro that got Mcguire his record. I would be willing to bet quite a few do. IP: Logged |
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Thick dog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 790) |
posted July 03, 2000 11:49 AM
I'd have to say probably about a third. The only reason I wouldn't say more is that I imagine very few pithers would juice. I saw an interview with Sammy Sosa before the season started and his face was swelled up beyond belief. A former player who trains in my gym whose name I don't want to disclose who has won a couple of batting titles said that the drug of choice for most players is winny. IP: Logged |
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lexicon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 295) |
posted July 03, 2000 12:49 PM
I would say that there are a lot. Generally I would say that hardly any pitchers use. Also not many middle infielders (2b,SS) I would bet the majority of power hitters (OF,1B,C,DH) are on. It also may have something to do with all of the injuries, As guys have never been as bulky as they are now. Winstrol would be the drug of choice in my opinion also. A problem must be how they can cycle around such a long season (162 games) Imagine, You are using and hit a bunch of home Runs over 2 months, When your done, if you go into a slump guess what you would blame. The mental problems could be huge. I would imagine that if MLB started AS testing there would be a lot of unhappy players. Sosa, McGwire, Piazza,Gonzalez, Canseco, Vaughn are a few that come to mind. How about Brady Anderson the year he hit all those HR's. Who knows though, We could all be wrong.... IP: Logged |
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THE STEEL BEAST Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 574) |
posted July 03, 2000 01:06 PM
ID SAY THE BASE BALL DOESNT JUICE BECAUSE IT IS TOO SMALL,BUT ITS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT IS REALLY HARD AND FIRM.THE BASKETBALL IS DEFINITELY JUICEING,ITS ENORMOUS.THE FOOTBALL LOOKS AS IF IT WAS ON SOME GH OF SOME TYPE BECAUSE OF ITS POOR SHAPE.DONT KNOW ABOUT THE HOCKEY PUCK OR THE SOCCER BALL. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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D007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 511) |
posted July 03, 2000 01:15 PM
If you dont count the pitchers, I would say 50% or more. For crying out loud juic'n is simply employment security. Cant blame em. The lay public is so fucking dumb its scarry. IP: Logged |
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Rexie317 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 235) |
posted July 03, 2000 03:14 PM
Pitchers probably dont. And I would have to say guys like Bonds, Sheffield, Garciapara, Rolen, and Liberthal. Rolen and Liberthal don't hit jacks alot like the big guns but do hit a nice amount of homers. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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goleafs Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 537) |
posted July 03, 2000 03:17 PM
can you picture canseco and mcguire back in the bash bros days in the weightroom???? 1cc for me....1cc for you.......4 tabs for me.....4 tabs for you.... IP: Logged |
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tray renfro Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 631) |
posted July 03, 2000 03:18 PM
Mark McGwire did for sure, andro was an scapgoat. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MONSTROSITY Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 319) |
posted July 03, 2000 04:11 PM
ML baseball players love winny. The heavy hitters prefer test. IP: Logged |
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Rexie317 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 235) |
posted July 03, 2000 04:31 PM
Ever see Mcgwire back when he played for the A's? He was skinny as shit, look at him now. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Moderator (Total posts: 1150) |
posted July 03, 2000 04:52 PM
Beezers, I used my super-duper moderator powers to move this topic here. I posted a similiar one about the NFL not too long ago - this is a better forum for it. Matt PS I have heard from a major leaguer I know (a relief pitcher - not a superstar or household name) that around 30% are on juice. I think it's higher. IP: Logged |
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the mechanic Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 285) |
posted July 03, 2000 04:58 PM
McGuire played in the minors here where I live. He was skinny as hell. Anyone ever notice the increase in size between his first two years of bigs. Also, what few people actually know, is that his brother was a well known Bodybuilder here in California, big as a house. Go figure. I am all for it, his job is to hit home runs, plain and simple. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kram696969 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 318) |
posted July 03, 2000 07:25 PM
i bet they juice it also kram-mark IP: Logged |
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Puc Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 509) |
posted July 03, 2000 07:54 PM
big Mack was a DECAMAN! Puc IP: Logged |
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SSMAN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 736) |
posted July 03, 2000 09:51 PM
Without going into explicit detail I can shed some light on this topic. The vast majority of major league baseball players use, have used, or will use anabolic steroids at some point during their career. And despite what some of these replies state, this doesn't exclude pitchers. Two of my best friends are very well-known major league pitchers......and both use deca, primo, and winny. One friend plays in the winter league in South America where he scores all of his gear for the next season. IP: Logged |
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Beezers Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted July 03, 2000 10:24 PM
I honestly would imagine pitchers would use the most. Throwing a a ball 90+ over and over plus twisting of joints and odd rotations puts tremendous strain on the human arm. I would think to have a long healthy succesful career it would almost be a must. It isn't natural to throw an object loke that for as long as they do. The best way to get a little extra juice behind a juiced up ball would be to have a juiced up pitcher throw it. IP: Logged |
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Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 328) |
posted July 03, 2000 11:33 PM
Hey now, there is only one DECAMAN, that would be me. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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D007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 511) |
posted July 03, 2000 11:41 PM
that makes sense that pitchers would like deca. IP: Logged |
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td24 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 47) |
posted July 04, 2000 10:42 AM
Big Mac may have been skinny in his rookie season, but the skinny man also hit 49 homers. IP: Logged |
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delts Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 322) |
posted July 04, 2000 03:31 PM
Yeah.....Mac was cool huh? ANDRO, HELL YES! That's the shit man! LOL! I'm a diehard Cardinal fan not far from St.Louis, he's a bad mofo. Mac saying that the andro made him grow is like Bill Phillips saying that HMB made him grow.......quit it. delts ------------------ IP: Logged |
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ItalianSweetness Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 316) |
posted July 04, 2000 03:37 PM
look at john rocker. I think he juices all the time. look at his face how it is bloated and, his neck....not to mention his uncontrollable rages....could be definitley juicen. IP: Logged |
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Beezers Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 82) |
posted July 04, 2000 06:40 PM
Definately Rocker. He is a big guy. He's got a lot of power. IP: Logged |
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JuicingSoon! Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted July 04, 2000 07:14 PM
GUYS NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO RESORT TO STEROIDS LIKE SOME PEOPLE. IT'S CALLED HARD WORK IN THE WEIGHT ROOM AND A LOT OF YEARS OF DEDICATION. DON'T BE TAKING CREDIT AWAY FROM THESE GUYS THEY ARE WORLD CLASS ATHLETES WHO DESERVE SOME RESPECT FOR HOW THEY GOT THERE BODIES THE WAY THE DID!! STEROIDS ARE THE EASY WAY OUT!!!! IP: Logged |
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lexicon Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 295) |
posted July 04, 2000 08:31 PM
Rocker is not a user. AS use is overall detrimental to a baseball player. The sooner they figure it out the better. I know a lot of pro and college pitchers and AS did nothing but hurt their carears, BAD. I guess Pedro Martinez uses also? Velocity has nothing to do with big arms. Arm length is much more important. Have you ever seen a short stocky pitcher? No way. IP: Logged |
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Dirk Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted July 04, 2000 11:41 PM
As a former pitcher for the Cincy Reds, I can assure you that pitchers DO use gear. On season, Deca and EQ ar most used, primarily to help with rotator/arm repair. Deca is Rx'd by sports medicine docs routinely for micro and macro tears. Off season vearies, many of the guys (pitchers included) use Primo depot, Winny, etc. Gains are better retained so I (we) are told. Many, especially in the Tampa Bay area use GH year round. I being one of them until recently. Easily (expensively) obtained through legal channels. As for Mac, you better believe he is a true gearhead. I have not talked with him personnaly about this subject, but the zits/scars/size/etc. do not occur natuarlly. I was told Sust/Test was his preferred, but this is second hand.
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SSMAN Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 736) |
posted July 05, 2000 02:38 AM
Juicingsoon....you're obviously just a boy playing on daddy's computer. On what facts do you base a statement "steroids are the easy way out"? If you had even a shred of knowledge or AS experience you would know the incredible amount of training it takes to grow when using AS. You don't simply pop some pills or take a shot and grow. This subject isn't based on speculation....as I stated, 2 very close friends are pitchers for major league teams. Both are very well known, and both use AS. Next time do some homework before you reply. [This message has been edited by SSMAN (edited July 05, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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baza Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 23) |
posted July 05, 2000 04:35 AM
Actually, I bet quite a few pictures do juice. As for other players, canseco for sure. Cecil fielder, but he didn't lift any weights, jk, he's a big dude. I'm a Canadian, and a Blue Jay fan, Delgado is a big guy and very powerful. Also, Fulmer, he looks very thick. IP: Logged |
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