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jersey boy
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posted July 02, 2000 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey boy   Click Here to Email jersey boy     Edit/Delete Message
Mightydog brought up an interesting point about liquid D that he came across 10 or so years ago. In my opinion drugs like A-50 from syntex (white), Foil wrapped Sust, and the old blue d-bol 5mg (don't know if they are still around) were by far stronger regardless of what the labels say than the A.S. found today. Any takers?


get big or get out

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted July 02, 2000 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Disagree.

Look at today's Mr Olympias compared to those of 20 years ago. Arnold is the legend but you can't really compare his physique to Dorian's or Ronnie's - and training hasn't changed in 25 years.

Matt

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jersey boy
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posted July 02, 2000 10:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey boy   Click Here to Email jersey boy     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not necessarily talking about the inclusion of insulin, GH, Thyroid, and the mega doses of today's top BB's. But pill for pill of purely A.S..

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Curious
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posted July 02, 2000 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Curious     Edit/Delete Message
The D-Bol that you find today is nothing like the old stuff Ciba made. It just doesn't compare. As far as why the bodybuilders of today are much larger is because they take much larger doses and there are much more different kinds of steroids. Those like Arnold and company took were much smaller doses. To get HGH back in the old days you had to get it out of a cadaver.

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MiracleMan
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posted July 03, 2000 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MiracleMan   Click Here to Email MiracleMan     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, thay are much cleaner, more effective and less overall toxic. Technology advances so does the drugs. Only in America

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Recoome
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posted July 03, 2000 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Recoome   Click Here to Email Recoome     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe today's drugs seem weaker because most of them are fake/counterfeit. Back than they were all real...

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Jeff_rys
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posted July 03, 2000 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
You are right Matt, you cannot compare Arnold from 1975 with Dorian and Ronnie from 2000. But if Arnold was born 30 years later, in my opinion, he would still be the best, that's his character, his nature, the drift he has to win. But only if he had access to the same drugs Ronnie is taking.

Jeff

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Krusher
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posted July 03, 2000 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Krusher   Click Here to Email Krusher     Edit/Delete Message
A friend of mine who is an old-timer used to get those blue d-bol for $7 per 100. He would take 4 tabs daily at most and gain 20lbs per cycle not stacked with anything. I feel that much of this is a mental effect, where they felt that the drugs were so powerful and dangerous that they would train very hard, eat like crazy, and take very, very long breaks between cycles so that each cycle was almost like a first cycle. Even if the old drugs were more potent on a mg basis, guys are using so much more now that it wouldn't matter. Here is my friends cycle which he would do once or maybe twice per year.

WK--D-bol
1---1tabs/day
2---2
3---3
4---4
5---3
6---2
7---1

I remember him telling me that you can only stay at 4 tabs/day for one week max for health reasons. I asked if he ever stacked injectables and he told me that that was for the crazy guys who don't care about there health or for Pros. I never bothered to tell him that I was currently on 1g/wk of sust, 8 thais/day, and a 50mg shot of winny daily, he would've told me I'll be dead soon.

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