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yarpic Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted July 01, 2000 06:20 PM
Small waists seem to be seen on steroid-free bodybuilder. I was looking at danny hester pics and it looks like when he stopped taking stuff his waist became less wide. According to my opninion, it's one of the symptoms that reveal the use of anabolic drugs. What is your point? IP: Logged |
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 933) |
posted July 01, 2000 06:25 PM
I DEFF AGREE! MY WAIST SIZE JUMPED UP FORM A NORMAL 31 TO NOW A 34!!! NONE OF MY PANTS FIT ANYMORE! I JUST HOPE WHEN IM OFF IT WILL GO BACK? ------------------ IP: Logged |
Vitaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 374) |
posted July 01, 2000 06:27 PM
I was wondering the same thing. My waist size is also going up during my first cycle of Deca and Sust. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Pup'nIrn Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 179) |
posted July 01, 2000 06:41 PM
There are many reasons you could go up in waist sizes. First of all there is water retention on a very androgenic cycle. Then you can always relate heavy free weight squats and other large movements to building up the midsection. Your abdominal and lower back region provide all the body's trunk stability in free weight movements. Therefore if your body is able to handle larger loads your abs will have to strengthen and your lower back will too. Stronger muscles = larger muscles. Now in a the case of the professional, I would have to relate there larger bloated midsections to the heavy Gh and Insulin use. You didn't use to see these guys till gh/insulin got popular. Last but not least, the most common is the idea that while on a cycle for mass you can eat all you want and your 'not really' getting fat. Been there, done that!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 716) |
posted July 01, 2000 08:14 PM
called ROID GUT...LOOK AT DORIAN YATES IP: Logged |
cowbell Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 395) |
posted July 01, 2000 09:56 PM
yap, roid gut happens to us all that use the stuff. IP: Logged |
Brutis Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 221) |
posted July 01, 2000 10:02 PM
Wrong. Look at old photos of Columbo and Schwarzenegger, and I don't just mean when they're doing vacuums. These guys had tiny waists and they juiced. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Brutis Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 221) |
posted July 01, 2000 10:06 PM
One thing I forgot. Juice or no juice, guys who bulk up in the off season (myself included) then shred consistantly over time build up visceral fat--fat around the organs. This is hard to get rid of, even after the visible fat disappears. ------------------ IP: Logged |
animal B Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 716) |
posted July 01, 2000 10:09 PM
true brutis, but they didnt have the juice we have today, and they werent doing near the quantities the pros are today, put arnold near dorian or nasser, you will see what I mean, IP: Logged |
Monster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 156) |
posted July 01, 2000 11:02 PM
"Roid Gut" isnt from gear, it is definatly from GH and insulin use! Lets be real now. The "Naturals" most definatly do some sort of light cycles of gear to harden up and give them an extra edge (most insider dealers have sold to them). They dont mess with a lot of the stuff we do, though. Mega dosing GH is the sure way to it! GH in large doses will cause growth of the large and small intestines right along with muscle growth, and I guarantee that every IFBB pro uses or has used it. I know this post came up because of the MuscleMag article. Has anyone else noticed that as these mags come out with an extensive line of "supplements", they jump on the anti-roid bandwagon? Pump is even trying to say that theyre newest andro is SUPERIOR TO DECA!!! Oh man, will it ever end??? IP: Logged |
goleafs Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 506) |
posted July 01, 2000 11:07 PM
i think its just from the fact that we all consciously eat more when on a cycle to maximize gains. i dont think it has anything to do with gear - perhaps another one of those urban legends??? IP: Logged |
CornFed Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 227) |
posted July 01, 2000 11:09 PM
Muscles WILL get larger everywhere...that's just how it works... Arnold and columbo and everyone else did not use the same kind of androgens that are available nowadays...But your waist will still look smaller becasue your shoulders will look so huge....DUH IP: Logged |
marky Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 429) |
posted July 02, 2000 12:30 AM
Its the protein gas. IP: Logged |
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 341) |
posted July 02, 2000 04:20 AM
your organs grown to while on roids.
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ironmaster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 212) |
posted July 02, 2000 04:31 PM
I notice that working the obliques and deadlifts really thickened my waist w/gear, but its a good type of thickness. Everything else gets bigger, too, so the proportions still look good. Arnold used those weighted twists that nobody favors anymore - and look at his waist. IP: Logged |
Decaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 298) |
posted July 02, 2000 04:51 PM
My waist on this cutting cycle is getting smaller and smaller, I was around 32, gotta be approaching 30 now, maybe 29, love that shit makes you really look v'd-out ------------------ IP: Logged |
aahepp Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 142) |
posted July 02, 2000 06:17 PM
Cornfed I have tod disagree. All muscle will not grow. They will get stronger but not grow. There is people at the gym (and on this board) that can't not get their claves to grow. Muscle growth is closly related to genetics. You can train all you want and use the juice you want but if it's not in the genes for that regin to grow then it won't. Calves are the prime example. I have seen people go from 250 up to 450 on the calf raises and never gain a 1/4" on the little things. Its all in the genes. IP: Logged |
MONSTROSITY Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 293) |
posted July 02, 2000 06:26 PM
A tiny waist is a weak waist. Obliques and abs are no different than any other muscle in the body, when they get stronger they grow and get bigger and vice versa. A lot of tiny guys hate to hear this, but if you look at any strength/football/track/ athlete that has reached maximum development they will have extremely wide waists. This is not fat in this case it's just massive obliques and abs. If any of you have ever wrestled you will know how intimidating it is to fight an opponent with a wide muscular waist. If your worried about your waist growing, then your not worried about performance. IP: Logged |
MONSTROSITY Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 293) |
posted July 02, 2000 06:37 PM
Below you will find a picture of Bill Kazmaier, at the time of this photo Bill was 330 lbs/7% bodyfat. And, by the way his waist is way over 40 inches, what a fat worthless fuck!!!!! Did I mention he's weak too b/c a big waist means a fat waist and fat is weakness...............no I'm talking like a tiny bodybuilder who hates strongmen. Oh well............
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MONSTROSITY Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 293) |
posted July 02, 2000 06:43 PM
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yarpic Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 6) |
posted July 02, 2000 10:40 PM
I'm just trying to understand why gymnasts athletes do look so good and impressive.See guys called andreas wecker or ivan ivankov. They look fantastic to me even if they probably weigh less than 180lbs.But they have a so tremendous waist to shoulder (and bi) ratio... IP: Logged |
jersey boy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 158) |
posted July 02, 2000 10:46 PM
I agree on many points. The androgenicity of a drug will cause bloat, an increase in strength=increase in size ( most of the time) and sometimes the organs themselves i.e. organomegaly are affected. With time and the cessation of A.S. most will subside and the waist will return to pre-cycle shape. By the way, used to hang with Franco Santoriello, and he used to say, yeah so fucking what.
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goleafs Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 506) |
posted July 02, 2000 10:53 PM
kazmaiers a pussy. IP: Logged |
Kahn Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 542) |
posted July 02, 2000 11:07 PM
Jersey Boy-Hows Franco these days? Whats he up to and why'd he bail. He was awesome. I think the bloat is from the Gh mostly. It causes internals to grow, too. The waist could grow because of the glutes and lower back. Also the sides of the hips grow with the quads. Look at Lee Priests waist, his is really small IP: Logged |
jersey boy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 158) |
posted July 02, 2000 11:14 PM
Haven't seen Franco i a couple of years. He left Cybergenics when the bottom fell out and he lost his endorsements. The latest is that he went through drug rehab, found god, and moved down to Florida to build houses with his brother. No lie.
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Vitaman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 374) |
posted July 03, 2000 07:41 AM
Thanks for the replies as well. I think my gut is water retention, but other very good points were brought up as well. ------------------ IP: Logged |
Pup'nIrn Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 179) |
posted July 03, 2000 08:44 AM
Kaz is far from a pussy. I have been in Auburn, Al and lifted at his gym. He has a morning ritual that none of you could hang with!! My friend got to lift with him for a week because he was training for the world record deadlift in the 242 class. He got up at 5:00 every morning and gave Milton the keys to his truck...told him to steer while he pulled the bastard with a harness made for the front of his ford, bronco. It was about 1 mile to his gym and then he lifted. Kaz ain't nothing to laugh at! IP: Logged |
matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 933) |
posted July 03, 2000 10:28 AM
the question is will the waistling go back to its orginal size post cycle? my waist size went up from a 31-34 on this very "anabolic" cycle im on! although there is such thing as roid gut, this is not it! its the waist gettting biggger not the stomach! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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