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  sust doesn't "readily" convert to estrogen, gyno shouldn't be a problem using <1g?

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Author Topic:   sust doesn't "readily" convert to estrogen, gyno shouldn't be a problem using <1g?
brians
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posted June 30, 2000 12:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brians   Click Here to Email brians     Edit/Delete Message
I keep reading this all over this board and the internet. Yet I got gyno using alot less than a gram a week. Is this statement not accurate OR is it just that I'm so succeptible that I'd get D cups from something that's known to aromatize....?

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glazed_donutz
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posted June 30, 2000 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for glazed_donutz     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 52939896
different gear effects everyone differently what may give some people little side effects others may have major side effects you just have to find what works for you. I have a body that can grow of test enthenate grow like a weed and others that are luckt to gain a few pounds same with the gyno some it effects worse than others!!....

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WCP
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posted June 30, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
I agree...but damn!!! why take the damn chance??...just take clomid and dont worry about it...if your nips start to get too puffy or you totally blow the shower test..get on nolva NOW!!.....

And yes..from my understanding sust will readilly convert to estrogen for "most people"

later,
WCP

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gearface
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posted June 30, 2000 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah an u took almost a gram so.

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brians
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posted June 30, 2000 12:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for brians   Click Here to Email brians     Edit/Delete Message
DOC appt. in the morning tomorrow!

Trying to get Armidex.

If I do, I'll keep everyone posted as it seems that noone on the board has used Armidex post cycle

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dahmer
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posted June 30, 2000 02:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dahmer   Click Here to Email dahmer     Edit/Delete Message
Hey WCP, What is the shower test?? I have had puffy nipplesforever and they are only puffy when it is hot out??!! There are NO bumps behind them and they look great when it is colder out.

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cockdezl
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posted July 01, 2000 03:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
Sus is nothing more than various test esters. Why would it not aromatize any differently than any other test?

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Anabolicum Mister
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posted July 01, 2000 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anabolicum Mister   Click Here to Email Anabolicum Mister     Edit/Delete Message
Cockdezl,

The mechanism by which test converts to estrogen should be the same for all esters. But because of the different release rates of different esters, the rate at which the test converts will effect the estrogen levels.

For example, if you inject 250mg test propionate, a fast acting ester, that 250mg of test gets into your system much faster than if you took 250mg of sust. Therefore, estrogen levels will likely spike quickly also. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that the ester used can effect estrogen levels (at a given time) and therefore different esters may be better or worse where gyno is a concern.

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cockdezl
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posted July 01, 2000 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cockdezl     Edit/Delete Message
ANABOLICUM, I see your rational of ester release rates, but Sus contains various ester lengths. Also, as long as test levels are supraphysiological, then estrogen conversion will be high. Sus is known for gyno, this is not something new.

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WCP
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posted July 01, 2000 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WCP   Click Here to Email WCP     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 39184064
Dahmer,

If you can stand under fairly hot water in the shower, and the warmth hurts your nips..then its time to hit the nolva...they should never get that sensitive.

A little trick E2 turned me onto..

Later,
WCP

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