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Author Topic:   WHAT BETTER THE NEW JEFA OMNEDREN OR SUSTONON 250(CYTOPHO)
pingre
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 29, 2000 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pingre     Edit/Delete Message

I HAVE 5 SUSTENON 250 AND 7 OMNEDREN, SHOULD I TRADE IN THE SUS FOR THE REST OMNEDREN, WHAT WILL MAKE ME HARDER RATHER THAN LOOKIN FAT. WHAT I WAS THINKING WAS A CYCLE LIKE THIS, HELP IF IT NEED CHANGES I HAVEN'T DONE SAUCE IN 4 YEARS

WEEK1-750MG OMNEDREN
WEEK2-750MG OMNEDREN
WEEK3-500MG OMNEDREN PRIMOBOLON 300MG
WEEK4-500MG SUS 250 PRIMOBOLON 300MG
WEEK5-500MG SUS 250 PRIMOBOLON 300MG
WEEK6-250MG SUS 250 PRIMOBOLON 200MG
WEEK7- PRIMOBOLON 200MG

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flexed1
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posted June 30, 2000 02:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for flexed1   Click Here to Email flexed1     Edit/Delete Message
exact same thing so choose your personal favorite. the jelfa seems to hurt less than the mexcican and my assumption is its cleaner but i love redi as well so its up to you

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TEZT
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posted June 30, 2000 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TEZT   Click Here to Email TEZT     Edit/Delete Message
Both the SUS 250 and the omnadren have four blends of different tests in them but to my knowlege the new Omnadrens have the same four test just like the SUS250. The Omanadren are much cheaper but still work great. The Omnadren will hold a little more water in your body though. Also the Russian ones are usally much cleaner than the jelfa Omnadrens.

Good luck with your cycle...

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Painkiller
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posted June 30, 2000 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm......4 different types of test.....can you name the 4 types of tests???????

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gearface
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posted June 30, 2000 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gearface   Click Here to Email gearface     Edit/Delete Message
Testosterone propionate
Testosterone Phenylpropionate
Testosterone Isocaporate
Testosterone decanotate

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Painkiller
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posted June 30, 2000 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
well, that was the four diff. types of test. esters.............now I want the four diff. types of test.!

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Wess1017
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posted June 30, 2000 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Wess1017   Click Here to Email Wess1017     Edit/Delete Message
Test propionate
Test undecanoate
Test enanthate
Test cypionate

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happymf'er
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posted June 30, 2000 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for happymf'er   Click Here to Email happymf'er     Edit/Delete Message
You don't need to taper down with the sus or omna.
Try 500mg/week X 6 weeks.

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Painkiller
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posted June 30, 2000 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
6 weeks.....make the cycle longer than that, at least 8 weeks.
If it was dbol I could agree with you on 6 weeks happymf.

Still no answer to my test. quizzzzz!!

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GymRatSD
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posted June 30, 2000 11:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GymRatSD   Click Here to Email GymRatSD     Edit/Delete Message
There are NOT four different types of testosterone. There is ONE. And it is TESTOSTERONE. The difference comes with the esters that are bound to the testosterone molecule.

There is DHT, or dihydrotestosterone, but that is not the same thing.

There are other similar compounds, but still there is only one true testosterone.

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Painkiller
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posted June 30, 2000 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
At least one person did get my point!!!

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Hercules
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posted June 30, 2000 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hercules   Click Here to Email Hercules     Edit/Delete Message
Personally if I were you I would try to stay away from the Cytahoh's. Last year there were a lot of them going around that were underdosed. I think they are still around so to be on the safe side I would get a different brand of them if your going to do the Sustanon. Just trying to worn you of what I know.

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pup
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posted June 30, 2000 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pup   Click Here to Email pup     Edit/Delete Message
wow painkiller....... your knowledge of organic chemistry is amazing to all of us..... thanks for gracing us with your presence.

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Dexter
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posted June 30, 2000 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
Hercules might be right about the Russian Sustanons (CYCTAHOH) floating around last year, but I'll say that it's the shit! It's very, very good stuff.

Omnadren is also excellent, has the same formula as Sust, and is generally less expensive than most Susts out there.

You should notice no difference switching from CYCTAHOH to Omnadren.

Dexter

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giantset
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posted June 30, 2000 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
I think painkiller was trying to make the point that test is test. The esters only change the test's soluability.

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micke
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posted June 30, 2000 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micke   Click Here to Email micke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74213838

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Painkiller
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posted July 01, 2000 08:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
U got it giant! Too many people think sust has four diff. types of test.

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Painkiller
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posted July 01, 2000 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
And pup...Since you didn't answer, I figure that u didn't know it.
And I don't think you would have to be a chemist to figure that out.

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denmaur
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posted July 01, 2000 08:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for denmaur   Click Here to Email denmaur     Edit/Delete Message
You dont have to be a smartass to make a point either. We are all here to learn and a simple explanation was all that was needed.

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Painkiller
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posted July 01, 2000 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
Well denmaur what can u do??? I see the same thing with clomid for example. Tons of board space with silly q's about "why use clomid eod?", "clomid, do I need that in my sust cycle"...........and on.....This have been answered about one billion times before, Is the search function so hard to use????
I have been watching this board for almost 2 years and in feb(i think it was feb.) 2000 I registrated myself. I haven't been posting so much, but I read the board almost every day, and I can say to myself that I have become well educated by this board. I even know more than my doc....
Some even get so upset when "just 4 persons" answer their q's that they start throwing shit to everybody on the board. I have seen this board has been transformed from one of the best board on the net to one on the middle of my favorite boards. That really pisses me off, and I'm not wanting to be a smartass, but sometimes I just feel like I can't let it be.

JUST MY THOUGHTS, and sorry for the english, I'm from a fucking cold country called Norway

Peace

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fishdis02
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posted July 01, 2000 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishdis02   Click Here to Email fishdis02     Edit/Delete Message
relax painkiller

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vdevil
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posted July 01, 2000 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71552136
Don't trust anything Russian. Pay twice as much for non-russian if you have to.

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2Thick
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posted July 02, 2000 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 2Thick   Click Here to Email 2Thick     Edit/Delete Message
The reason people keep asking the same questions is because new people come to the board every day. If we are not here to answer questions then what are we here to do? Forget the search function! If you do not like the question then don't answer it. If you don't know the answer then don't answer the question. It is that simple.

I personally like to answer questions.

BTW- If I had the choice, I would use the Omna, but they will probably do the same thing in the end.


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Dexter
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posted July 02, 2000 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
vdevil, I'm beginning to think you have a real complex regarding Russian gear. You seem to always comment negatively about it.

That's okay, of course. You're entitled to your opinion. It is my opinion, having had considerable experience with Russian products, that most are quite good.

In this case, your comment is irrelevant. The so-called Russian Sustanon (CYCTAHOH) is made by Infar (licensed by Organon) in India. Omnadren is manufactured by Jelfa in Poland. Neither is Russian.

Have a nice day.

Dexter

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vdevil
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posted July 02, 2000 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vdevil   Click Here to Email vdevil     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71552136
I am sure there are good russian products out there dexter. But you know what? I do have a complex about "russian" gear. I consider myself lucky when it comes to fakes and getting scammed. I have only gotten crappy product three times out of 30+ orders. Twice were with "russian" gear.(dbol&sust). So you can see why I might be a little jaded my polish friend. It is merely my opinion which I feel free to give in this open forum. Doesn't matter where it is made, it is still "russian" to me.

[This message has been edited by vdevil (edited July 02, 2000).]

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cowbell
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posted July 02, 2000 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cowbell   Click Here to Email cowbell     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with 2thick. if you don't like the ? than don't answer them, whats the point of haveing this board if everyone was to do a search for something, I like to help out the new guys.

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Dexter
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posted July 02, 2000 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dexter   Click Here to Email Dexter     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 71953041
vdevil, sorry you're jaded. But, I suppose, if I had similarly bad experiences I'd be suspicious. Still, I can't understand the blanket negativity toward Russian products. But, as you've said, it's your opinion, which I accept.

Just for the record, I am American. And I live in Moscow. I am not Polish

Regards, Dexter

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Painkiller
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posted July 02, 2000 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Painkiller   Click Here to Email Painkiller     Edit/Delete Message
OK so u like to answer q's, I like to, but not the same q ten times a day.
And it's real funny u guys mention the search function, because a couple of months ago everyone was telling newbies(and other who posted q's that had been answered before) to use the search function. Somebody even got flamed because they didn't try the search function before they posted....
But obviously(sp?) the mods words are the words of God, there are examples of this. U can see this by looking at some posts, u can have many different meanings until a mod post, then everybody "suddenly" mean the same thing....
I know I probably will get some "angry" post after this, but this is a discussion board and it's allowed to have mine own thoughts. I think discussions like this will only ,make the board better and stronger....
peace

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