posted June 29, 2000 04:07 AM            

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Just wondering if you guys think that using Clen while on ephedrine sounds crazy. Here is my reasoning(Please critique it):

- Clenbuterol is a selective beta-2 agonist so it therefore affects only the beta-2 receptor. Ephedrine is an unselective beta adrenoreceptor agonist, so it therefore stimulates the beta-1, beta-2, and beta-3 receptors. So, if one where to use Clen and ephedrine together, one would get the thermogenic effects(through BAT) of the beta-3 receptor, combined with Clen�s(and ephedrine�s to a smaller degree) stimulation of the beta-2 receptor. I�m not really sure yet if Clen+ECA would overload your CNS, so i�d apreciate any feedback.

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posted June 29, 2000 07:59 AM            

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allways something i wondered myself actully i think they are both as good as each other for burning fat i have taken them togeather and i dont think i got more of a thermo myself just try it see what happens if ya get hot thats good! hehe.

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posted June 29, 2000 02:21 PM         

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I have used both at the same time with great success. Just be careful and listen to your body. 100mcg/day clen and no more than 75mg of Eph. works wonders.

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posted June 29, 2000 02:52 PM            

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this last week i've changed my E/C/A cycle into an E/C/C cycle started with 2 tabs of clen with my e/c right before workout, and in the morning on of days. after 3 days i've aded a 3rd clen tab after work out.

i'me swetting like a friken pig during and a couple of hours after work out, and got this even higher temp during the days.

so far allmost no shaking hands and no cramps (exept my legs but thats natural after an hour of runing)

i'm just wondering about adeding a clen and making it 4 clens a day.

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posted June 29, 2000 08:12 PM            

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Since ephedrine and caffeine seem to be synergetic in aiding fat loss, and clen and ephedrine are kissing cousins (sympatomimetics), I always wondered about stacking caffeine with clen.

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posted June 29, 2000 08:16 PM            

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bstrong- any problems sleeping?

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posted June 30, 2000 07:25 PM            

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Fonz nice logic. But if there both beta agonist they do almost the same thing so why not take a alpha-2 antagonist like yohimbine instead.

I think taking Eph wiht Clen would be scary.

I would prefer taking clen 2 weeks with caffeine and yohimbe and then switch to ECA + yohimbe for 2 weeks.

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posted June 30, 2000 10:00 PM            

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Brutis, bout the sleeping mybe a lil bit less than normal, but no real prob sleeping at night.

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