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superdave
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posted June 28, 2000 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superdave   Click Here to Email superdave     Edit/Delete Message
I am in week 2 of test cyp only at 600 mgs/week, therefore I have 1200 mgs in my system. The problem is last night I could not sleep at all because I think my heart was going too fast and I went to the doctor today and spilled the beans to him. He said it was an allergic reaction to the drug. He said I would probably be OK and gave me insomnia medication, of course saying to stop doing the gear. I need to know if anyone has any reasons/advice about this because obviously I cant go on with zero sleep. Thank you

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HeavyLifterX
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posted June 28, 2000 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
I am doing Test Cyp now, are you eating any other suppliments that might effect your heart rate. I was doing twin labs ripped fuel and could not sleep at night. Normally it does not do that, but while doing the cyp it did.

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superdave
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posted June 28, 2000 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superdave   Click Here to Email superdave     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, the test is Depotrone, 100mgs/ml, The Premier Pharmaceutical Co.
Epsom Downs Office Park, Sloane St. Bryanston, 2152 (S.Africa)
Lot #16686
Exp. 6/2003

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superdave
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posted June 28, 2000 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superdave   Click Here to Email superdave     Edit/Delete Message
I am not taking anything but cyp.

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HeavyLifterX
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posted June 28, 2000 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
I feel your pain bro, it's hard to gain without sleep. Hope you can this fixed, I have heard of T Prop. doing this but not Cyp.

Good Luck Bro

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bgriff
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posted June 28, 2000 06:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
go to a shrink an get some sleeping pills!!!

Ambien works great for me!!

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BigWh1tey
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posted June 28, 2000 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigWh1tey   Click Here to Email BigWh1tey     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 75900860
just take a strong histamine blocker ( eg. diphenhydramine "Benadryl" ) . Youll be fine and sleeping like a baby .

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superdave
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posted June 28, 2000 06:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superdave   Click Here to Email superdave     Edit/Delete Message
I really need to now if this is common and will pass so i can either quit my cycle or continue.

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BigCatratcho
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posted June 28, 2000 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
What do you mean by "heart going too fast"? Like 80 bpm, or 130?

If it was just 80, no worries, if it was way over the top, you doc may be right about the allergic reation.

Boosting you system with test will affect your sleep, and sometimes your heat rate, but an acceptable level to me is 80 or below.

I will get flamed for that, but those are my personal tolerances. Above 100 is scary.

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MP5
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posted June 28, 2000 06:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MP5   Click Here to Email MP5     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds to me like what anxiety does to a person. I had anxiety and my heart would beat out of my chest and I noticed it at night as I laid there. Freaked me out so I went to the doc. I am allergic to damn near everything and that does not sound like the symptoms, I think you would have hives, shallow breathing, redness etc. I am no doctor, but if you are allergic you better get off the shit because you don't want to go into anaphylitic shock which will KILL your ass.

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Gymmyaus
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posted June 28, 2000 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gymmyaus     Edit/Delete Message
Last time I used Cyp (its the only AS that has given me this trouble) on it's own I had trouble sleeping too!!
I had the the worst night's sleep on the second night after the shot, and then it got slowly better with each night.
It bugged the shit out of me, as the first night it happened I didn't sleep at all.
I found that Valerian tablets did the job for me, their cheap and natural.

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Parabellum
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posted June 28, 2000 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Parabellum   Click Here to Email Parabellum     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 78471720
Anaphylactic shock

Anaphylactic shock is a severe allergic reaction
Time is of the essence: death may occur within minutes
The first sign of anaphylactic shock is usually itchiness
In anaphylactic shock, the chemicals that are released overwhelm the body, causing some or all of the following symptoms:

itchiness
swelling of the throat and/or various parts of the body
hives
dyspnea, wheeze, chest tightness
faintness
feeling of apprehension
collapse
death if untreated


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Emergency Treatment
Epipen� or Anakit�
Seek immediate medical aid
The best possible treatment is avoidance of the known allergy. Unfortunately, this is not always possible. All persons with a known life-threatening allergy or a history of very severe symptoms should own and carry an adrenaline kit (and know how and when to use it).

Taking the premeasured dose of adrenaline pushes the blood pressure back up to normal and reduces swelling, especially of the airways. After receiving the adrenaline, the person should then be escorted to the nearest emergency deparment for assessment.

Make sure you have discussed how and when to use your emergency kit with your physician before you need to use it.

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Causes
A wide variety of things can cause an anaphylactic reaction, including:

food - peanuts and shellfish are the most common, although any food can be responsible.
drugs - penicillin and vaccines are common causes
insect stings - from wasps, bees or hornets
rarely, strenuous exercise in combination with another factor (e.g. exercise & celery; exercise & shellfish)
Remember: anything has the potential of causing a life threatening allergy

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Precautions
Always carry an unexpired Anakit� or Epipen�
Inform immediate family & caregivers
Wear a MedicAlert� bracelet
Adrenaline deteriorates in sunlight. If the adrenaline is cloudy or discoloured, this indicates loss of potency. Always check the expiry date on the Epipen� or Anakit�, and replace prior to the date.

All people involved in the care of a child with a life threatening allergy, must be informed. This includes school teachers, day care workers, the babysitter, the coach, etc. An emergency plan of action must be discussed with all those involved in the child's care, especially if the person in charge is not comfortable accepting responsibility for giving the adrenaline.

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Immunotherapy

has proven to be effective for venom allergies such as bee or wasp stings. This is because the antigen used is purified.
most other mixtures currently used are very crude, not very pure but do work well with pollen induced allergies.

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superdave
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posted June 28, 2000 07:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for superdave   Click Here to Email superdave     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, heartbeat is at 75, doctor checked, doctor also mentioned anaphylactic, But I too k my first shot 11 days ago?

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marky
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posted June 28, 2000 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for marky     Edit/Delete Message
If i havent cycled in some time, i usually
start getting night jumps where i wake up
shaking and my heart rate up. Once in a while in the day-esp. near feedingtime.
When my body got accustomed to the gear again, the symptoms went. What your explaining seems pretty normal to me.

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musclegear
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posted June 29, 2000 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for musclegear   Click Here to Email musclegear     Edit/Delete Message
Get some GHB and take 1 gram before you go to bed. You will have the best sleep you've ever had in your life. You will wake up feeling like superman. Otherwise if it becomes a problem get your doc to prescribe you some xanex or valium.

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Jay Z
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posted June 29, 2000 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Z   Click Here to Email Jay Z     Edit/Delete Message
bro just get some melatonin and you'll sleep like a baby within 30 minutes. and it's cheap and over the counter.

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TESTOMAX
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posted June 29, 2000 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TESTOMAX   Click Here to Email TESTOMAX     Edit/Delete Message
go to a health store and buy s. john's worth take about 900mg a day (whole cycle)u will feel good and sleep good...and all anexiety is gone ! then taper it down...i do that every time !!

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Captain Insano
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posted June 29, 2000 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Captain Insano     Edit/Delete Message
I did some depotrone 2-3weeks ago and got the same. My heart started racing like mad, couldn't sleep etc. Nothing to serious i'm still alive. Hope you feel beter.

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SCHNiKEN
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posted June 29, 2000 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SCHNiKEN   Click Here to Email SCHNiKEN     Edit/Delete Message
How can someone be allergic to testosterone... wouldnt they get sick from their natural production then?

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LEGEND
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posted June 29, 2000 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEGEND     Edit/Delete Message
here's another way to go, get rid of the test and switch to something else, maybe deca and dbols or some eq, or anything but test. you can get big with out test, try something else, before you get worse and can't.....good luck

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Want2BeHuge
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posted June 29, 2000 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Want2BeHuge   Click Here to Email Want2BeHuge     Edit/Delete Message
I've had many sleepless nights while on a cycle, usualy also have an elavated body Temp and soem sweating. Either I wake-up 3-4 times during the night or can't sleep at all. I just learned to live with it, but I also got some over the counter sleep aids at the Drug store and that helps. The higher heat rate or trouble breathing can be caused by water retention according to my doc. There are a number if side effects to all AS and everybody seems to react a little different, some get NO side effects and then some get them all.

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Gettinhard
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posted June 29, 2000 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gettinhard   Click Here to Email Gettinhard     Edit/Delete Message
i asked the same question yesturday day 4 of my cycle and i havent slept worth a shit. so yesturday i bought some sominex and took a double dose and slept like a baby....today i talked to my source and he tells me i also sell sleeping pills...what a great fucking guy........

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