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firsttimer
Amateur Bodybuilder
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posted June 28, 2000 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firsttimer   Click Here to Email firsttimer     Edit/Delete Message
got my hands on some ref-b, and am planing on a 6-8 week cycle.i would like to shock myself with high doses first and then after 4-6 weeks start to wither down. would like any recomendations on what amounts to take and how to ease off off it.

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HeavyLifterX
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posted June 28, 2000 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
Keep in mind, you will get the most gains on your first cycle. Don't waste that on dicking around with Ref-B by itself. If you can, stack like hell and get big, you only have your first cycle once.

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firsttimer
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posted June 28, 2000 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firsttimer   Click Here to Email firsttimer     Edit/Delete Message
i want to go all oral the first time, any ideas on what to stack it with. im in no hurry to start, want to do it right the first time.

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HeavyLifterX
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posted June 28, 2000 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
Just my opinion bro, all oral is going to be tough on your liver. You are going to have to take a lot of extra gear just to suppliment the harm to your liver. If you want to make your first cycle a good one, try this. Go and find SSMANS cycle, he gain 44 lbs. It is very well put together.

reforvit (weeks 1-5) 50,75,75,50,25mg/daily
reforvit (weeks 7-10) 75,75,50,25mg/daily
sust 1000mg/week (weeks 1-10)
ultragan 400mg/week (weeks 5-10)
clomid 100mg/day (weeks 12-13)
clomid 50mg/day (week 14)


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firsttimer
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posted June 28, 2000 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for firsttimer   Click Here to Email firsttimer     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for the reply, i need to read up on a couple of these.

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bgriff
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posted June 28, 2000 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
hey bro dont waste it!!! Take some sust deca and clomid with it!!!

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IndyMan2
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posted June 28, 2000 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IndyMan2   Click Here to Email IndyMan2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 2662180
Hey Firsttimer, if you want to go all oral save yourself some time. Go to your local hosptial and sign up for their liver transplant list cause all oral is gonna f*** up your liver.
Oral gear has to make several passes through the liver and is therefore more likely to cause serious damage than injects would. Give it some thought and RESEARCH!!

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