posted June 27, 2000 06:09 PM            

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just put down my first cc of reforvit,wholly shit is that awful but i really wont give a shit when i start growing--who knows i may even like the taste then! hehehehe plan on 1.5cc a day--is that an alright dose?

im@LRG

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posted June 27, 2000 06:12 PM            

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Seems a little excessive to me... Ref-B is 25 mg/ml, so you'd be getting an equivalent of 150 mg of Dianabol per day. Most I've seen used is around 8-10 D-bols a day, and that would be 40-50 mg total.

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posted June 27, 2000 06:23 PM            

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i think your math is off, i will be taking 1-1/2ml a day(1.5cc)---each ml is 25mg there for 1.5ml would be 37.5mg ......maybe you just misread.

im@LRG

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posted June 27, 2000 07:31 PM            

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Reforvit is known for being slightly under-dosed. If you're looking for around 37.5mg, try 2 cc's per day.

You'll start to like that taste before too long

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posted June 27, 2000 07:34 PM            

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put it in a capsule and swallow it

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posted June 27, 2000 07:44 PM            

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My bad. Sorry, you are right about the math. I'm tired here at work, and sometimes the mouse falls asleep at the wheel, if you know what I mean...

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posted June 27, 2000 08:59 PM            

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Hey gettin, put it in a cap. 7.00 for 100 "00" size. It will only hold about .75ml use two in the mornin' and two in the evenin'. I had a cap burst in my mouth yesterday. I couldn't get thet sick fucking taste out of my mouth for 2hores.

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posted June 27, 2000 09:09 PM            

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Mix it with a protein/meal replacement drink. Most taste like shit anyway so it will simply taste a little shittier. Actually I take with Myoplex choc, mixed with H2O, blend well and the taste is not too bad.

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posted June 28, 2000 12:18 AM         

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Be a man...hold it in your mouth for 5 minutes. MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmm...good

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posted June 28, 2000 12:24 AM            

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Quick question about taking Reforvit orally...What is the advantage of taking it orally over regular Dianabol? I understand that dbol is c17 alpha alkylated, but wouldn't the reforvit in a capsule or gel-tab still have to pass though your liver as well?
Enlighten me guys....

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posted June 28, 2000 12:59 AM            

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Musclegear.... the Ref-B is just a little cheaper than the pills. Yes it has to go through the liver the same way as the pills.
Which means keep the cycle short to minimize
stress on your liver. Ref-B is not very clean
so it is best taken oraly. It also seems to be slighly underdosed compared to the pill form.

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posted June 28, 2000 01:08 AM            

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Screw all that then, I'll just stick to injecting, orals are for kids who are too scared of 1 1/2inches of steel. I just thought it was a way of getting around the daily Reforvit injections.

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posted June 28, 2000 06:24 PM            

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scared of injecting my ass,im pumping about 12cc a week right now, plus the reforvit--so why wouldnt i drink it? by the way musclegear how many cc's you putting in a week? maybe i like to use my brain a little, but if you like being a pin cushion thats you! oh fellas i already got used to the taste---thanks.....

im@LRG

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posted June 28, 2000 06:32 PM            

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1.5 cc is fine
2 cc is better

ref is underdosed

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posted June 28, 2000 07:58 PM            

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musclegear......I take reforvit orally as well. Does that make me a "kid who is afraid of a 1 1/2" bar of steel".....I think not. I am however well educated and understand that injecting anything into my body that isn't sterile is not a wise decision. I inject 1000mg/sust and 400mg/EQ every week......how much did you say you were injecting?

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posted June 28, 2000 11:39 PM            

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The bottom line is I'd rather not have my liver jump out of my throat and ask me what the hell I think I'm doing. I just don't think it's worth taking orals. The majority of the people who use orals will tell you straight up they are too scared to shoot themselves, I'm not talking about pros...again I guess I should phrase things a little better.

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posted June 28, 2000 11:48 PM            

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agree with diver

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posted June 29, 2000 01:22 AM            

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musclegear....not everyone who has experience with oral steroids has a fear of needles. While this may typically be true of those who do oral only cycles, many of us utilize orals as part of a well thought out stack. Take the blinders off and step back from your argument and look at it through objective eyes (assuming that's possible). You're trying to shield your liver from abuse, but you'll inject gear that isn't sterile!?!? Have you ever had the fine opportunity to be lanced and drained due to an infection at the injection site? You may want to examine your logic a bit further.

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posted June 29, 2000 03:08 AM            

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musclegear do you not think that by injecting dbol you wont be stressing your liver---just to let you know whether you inject or swallow wont change the chemical structure(c17 alpha- alkylated)in which was made for oral consumption.

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posted June 29, 2000 03:36 AM            

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The diver has the dose right. I really took off when I went to 2cc a day divided up to be taken every 4 hours. I fire it between my cheek and gum, and let it absorb. Mixes nice with my Skoal. And no, I like injectables - this is just part of a good stack, like ssman said. That's a slick handle, @LRG.

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posted June 29, 2000 04:42 AM            

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doesn't the ref need to be tapered down from 2ccs though?

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