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 Why Clomid EOD Throughout Cycle??
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Hercules Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted June 27, 2000 05:06 PM
  
I have been reading some topics and see that many people here are talking Clomid eod throughout their cycles and ed at the end for 2 weeks. Why is this? I understand ed for 2 weeks but why throughout the cycle?? IP: Logged |
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scott825 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 419) |
posted June 27, 2000 05:13 PM
The reason some people take it thru out the cycle is because they want to keep their body producing its natural levels of test (basically they want to keep their nuts from shrinking).It is also a good idea when on a highly androgenic cycle to take it thru out to stop gyno from setting in.. IP: Logged |
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chestyII Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 654) |
posted June 27, 2000 05:17 PM
I take two clomid everyday throughout, and one proviron and one Nolvadex. I am on a highly androgenic cycle, 1250mg test a week and 500mg deca. I will also take it at end of cycle as well. chesty ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Hercules Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted June 27, 2000 08:27 PM
Wouldn't taking clomid throughout the cycle take away from gains that you can make, because when taking test your system shuts down and taking clomid jump starts it again? IP: Logged |
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ghans Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 106) |
posted June 27, 2000 08:31 PM
scott825 said it. ghans IP: Logged |
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Amp Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 32) |
posted June 27, 2000 08:33 PM
Will Clomid alone keep you from getting gyno? Do you need nolvadex if you have plenty of Clomid? Getting ready to do Dbol/Deca/Sust and I have Clomid and can get Nolvadex. IP: Logged |
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matty Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 916) |
posted June 27, 2000 08:46 PM
for anabolic cycles like winny primo eq etc,, i dont think clomid eod througout is ness.....but i agree with the post cycle regiment. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Buzzsaw Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted June 28, 2000 08:25 AM
I dont understand why you guys are recommending to take clomid throughout ones cycle. If you read the World Anabolic Review it specifically states not to use clomid as an anti-estrogen.It does say that it will act as an anti estrogen but says do not exceed 10-14 days of usage. Not a flame or anything I am just wondering. Buzzzzzzzz IP: Logged |
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scott825 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 419) |
posted June 28, 2000 08:32 AM
I said only on a highly androgenic cycle...
[This message has been edited by scott825 (edited June 28, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Buzzsaw Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted June 28, 2000 09:16 AM
Yea man I took that directly from the World anabolic review, I didnt make it up. Buzzzzzz IP: Logged |
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miles Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 40) |
posted June 28, 2000 11:30 AM
Is there a problem taking nolv and clomid together? Or should you only resort to the nolv if you get painful or swollen tities? IP: Logged |
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gearface Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 219) |
posted June 28, 2000 11:40 AM
OK this is how it is Clomid-gets ur nuts going (good for like scotty said on a high androgeinc cycle cuz it'll shrink ur nuts) it also helps solidify gains so if on a cycle not like this tak it for a couple of weeks at the end to be safe Nolva-its and anti-estrogen so use it for prevention and management of gyno (20mg/day should be suffice) Use each for their intended purpose.Quit makin things complicated. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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cachapa Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 15) |
posted June 28, 2000 11:51 AM
After a cycle is over, Clomid at 50 mg/day is usually very effective in restoring natural testosterone production. It acts by blocking estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus and pituitary. If androgen levels are not elevated, this is enough to cause production of at least normal amounts of LH, or often more LH than normal. During the cycle Clomid cannot prevent inhibition of natural testosterone production, though some think using it during the cycle will allow a faster recovery afterwards. That is not proven though. If nothing else, though, it is useful as an antigyno/antibloating agent during the cycle. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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TxCollegeguy Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 352) |
posted June 28, 2000 01:06 PM
Well If the World Anabolic Review Says to Jump off a bridge are you going to do it??? I'm not meaning to sound overly Harsh with this.It's just one of those things that certain people here believe has been tried and true....Most of those that follow this are more concerned about their nuts shrinking...Whatever you think works best for you then by all means do it... Keep Pumping IP: Logged |
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Buzzsaw Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted June 28, 2000 01:43 PM
Well what I was gettin at was I did not know where they were getting their info from. I was trying to be helpful. I am educating myself on this because I am getting ready to do a cycle of d-bol deca and test enan. No harm done though- was just checking. Thanks for the info Bros Buzzzzzzzzz IP: Logged |
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grasshopper Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 21) |
posted June 28, 2000 03:42 PM
The main *possible* dissadvantage of using clomid EOD during your cycle would be if you built up a tolerance to the drug. Then it would be less effective at the end of your cycle when you need it most. If clomid really keeps your natural test going during a cycle, then this wouldn't be an issue. Anyone know if it's easy to build up a tolerance to clomid? IP: Logged |
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ironmaster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 200) |
posted June 28, 2000 03:50 PM
I prefer to go with the personal experience reports of the many vets on the board over any book advice. There are conflicts and inaccuaracies in the various "bibles" and reviews. Clomid is cheap, easy to get, and doesn't affect the cycle, so why not play it safe. I use nolv. also, even though I have never been prone to gyno. You want to have something fuck up your enjoyment of our sport, get gyno. My friends who have it are miserable. IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 111) |
posted June 28, 2000 04:02 PM
Take it at the end of the cycle of course. During the cycle will not help you. It will hurt your progress instead. Clomid counteract with a lot of injectables. But people seems to like clomid in this board. To me I know for sure they take too much clomid. The next time you see a top pro in real life, ask him about clomid. He'll probably don't know what it is. IP: Logged |
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Bossman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 317) |
posted June 28, 2000 04:06 PM
Someone had a post here a couple weeks back with studies that showed clomid DOES NOT HINDER GAINS at all during a cycle. Most of the guys on this board who have used it have good experiences, so I'll take there advice. ------------- Bossman IP: Logged |
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ironmaster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 200) |
posted June 28, 2000 04:09 PM
What??? Anyone else here feel that clomid hurt their gains during cycle? Mods.? I know this, my nuts work much better during cycle with clomid. IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 111) |
posted June 28, 2000 04:19 PM
You can take it during a cycle, but not religiously. Maybe mid cycle for a couple of days if you need it. Notice I said, if you need it. IP: Logged |
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bgriff Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 443) |
posted June 28, 2000 09:11 PM
better to be safe than sorry and loose your gains and money for clomid which is cheap!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Hercules Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted June 28, 2000 10:09 PM
O.k now i'm confused. So what is it, does clomid take away from your gains taking it throughout your cycle or what? Will you become ammune to the dosages and it not have an effect when your done and really need it? Can it be used througout a test cycle and a cutting? All i want is 1 real answer that is the truth cause now i'm confused. Can anyone help?? IP: Logged |
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MattTheSkywalker Moderator (Total posts: 1112) |
posted June 28, 2000 10:21 PM
WOW! SO MUCH CONFUSIONOVER A SIMPLE TOPIC. CLOMID KEEPS YOUR BODY PRODUCING NATURAL TEST DURING A CYCLE. IF YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN YOUR NATURAL TEST, YOUR NADS WILL SHRINK AND AT THE END OF THE CYCLE YOU WILL CRASH. TAKE THE CLOMID 50MG EOD THROUGHOUT THE CYCLE. AFTER YOUR LAST INJECTION, TAKE IT 50ME EVERY DAY OR 100MG EOD FOR TWO WEEKS, THEN TAKE IT 50MG EOD FOR TWO ADDITIONAL WEEKS. END OF STORY. YOU CAN USE NOLVA DURING THE CYCLE. IT DOES NOT HINDER GAINS. THAT'S RIGHT, IT DOES NOT. NOLVA WILL HELP TO GET THE ESTROGEN OUT OF YOUR BODY. THE PRESENCE OF ESTROGEN LEADS TO AMONG OTHER THINGS WATER RETENTION, SO BY USING NOLVA YOU WILL RETAIN LESS WATER AND YOU MAY LOOK SMALLER. YOU ARE LOSING ONLY WATER NOT MUSCLE. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO USE NOLVA DURING THE CYCLE YOU SHOULD HAVE IT ON HAND AND TAKE IT AT THE FIRST SIGNS OF GYNO. I HOPE THIS HELPED. MATT IP: Logged |
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Hercules Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted June 28, 2000 10:27 PM
Finally!! Thanks Matt that really helped. I appreciate it. One last question, what about HCG? Do you need to use it along with clomid at the end? [This message has been edited by Hercules (edited June 28, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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E2 Moderator (Total posts: 3550) |
posted June 28, 2000 11:54 PM
I thought we'd put all this clomid hcg crap to bed a long time ago, didn't you all read wcp's repost a few days ago????? If not find it and read it, all the answers to all the questions are in there. And The Skywalker is right. No hcg EVER!!! it creates as much estrogen in your system as it does test. IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 111) |
posted June 29, 2000 04:04 AM
Hercules. If this board is your only source of info. I feel sorry for you bro. There is a reason why the pros, I mean the top pros don't use clomid. Maybe I am full of shit, thats ok. But search out the real life pro bb. You know, those guys in the magazine and ask them about HCG and clomid. Once again, not to disrespect anyone, HCG does work. You take it at the end of the cycle once a week for 2 or 3 weeks. Depending on how heavy the cycle is. If you feel your nuts shrink during your cycle, take a shot of HCG once a week for 2 weeks. If you start to have gyno, then use nolvadex. Not everyone who uses HCG get gyno. HCG is prefered by real life pros. IP: Logged |
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media Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 22) |
posted June 30, 2000 06:29 AM
Well, I always used to take Clomid only after the cycle. Last time I did in that fashion, I was on about 800-900 mg AAS a week. I gained about 20 lbs. But I was bloated big time and very smooth. On my last cycle I took about 1000-1200 mg AAS a week, and 50 mg Clomid EOD. I gained about 15 lbs. But no bloating, no unpleasant feel under my nipples and no drastic crash at the end of the cycle. So I think that Clomit DO affect gains, but I feel and look much better this way. Just my experience. Nenad IP: Logged |
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