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WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1132) |
posted June 25, 2000 11:53 PM
Just ran across this...its pretty cool. WCP
Anabolic Steroids, Part III -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I could not locate any studies in the literature concerning micronutrient support for the steroid user. We do know that the chances of side effects are increased when athletes consume higher doses of steroids. We also know that athletes who are on steroids longer also have greater chances of side effects. Finally, oral steroids are harder on the liver than parenterals and C-17 alkalinated parenterals cause more side effects than non-alkalinated types. Unfortunately, there is no magic steroid support formula. I recommend a good, strong multi-vitamin, multi-mineral formula with the above diets. Added to this are additional micronutrients tailored to the patient's individual symptomatic requirements. The ranges I am listing are amounts that have been most commonly studies. The more nutrients you add to a multi-supplement for specific conditional support, the lower the dose you can use due to the synergistic effects of like nutrients. We will now briefly review the types of micronutrients used for various conditions that have theoretical application for steroid induced symptoms. 1. The cardiovascular system. A. Antioxidants. There are many types of antioxidant micronutrients. Below are some of the most common and best-studies substances: Vitamin C: 1-5 gm Coenzyme Z10: 30-120 mg B. Antiplatelet aggregates Fish oil (EPA and DHA): 3-6 gm
Taurine: 1-3 gm per day (maintenance of myocardial electrolytes especially K+) L-carnitine: 0.5-2.0 gm per day (decreases triglycerides) Magnesium: 400-800 mg per day (only a matter of time before it is routinely used by cardiologists) 2. Hypertension: Calcium: 1,000 to 1,500 mg per day Magnesium: 800-1,200 mg per day 3. Hepatic Support: Lipotrophic factors:** Glutathione: 250-1,000 mg (antioxidant which binds liver toxins) Phosphatidylcholine: 2-5 gm (a component of lecithin; look for brands that contain 75%) Silymarin: 50-150 mg (from the herb milk thistle if it has strong hepatic regenerating properties)
Prostate enlargement and premature hair loss for males genetically susceptible to baldness can be helped by the herb Saw Palmetto (60-320 mg per day). It blocks enzymes that convert testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) and enzymes involved in DHT cellular uptake. Increased levels of DHT in steroid users have been implicated as a cause of these conditions. Alopecia in athletes without male pattern baldness may, in some cases, be retarded by Saw Palmetto and Ginseng. Testicular atrophy and azoospermia may be retarded by 50-100 mg zinc per day. I recommend a highly absorbable form such as picolinate. To make sure a copper deficiency is avoided, your athlete should consume plenty of legumes, whole grains and green leafys. When dosing with amounts approaching 100 mg of zinc, a copper supplement is a good idea. I recommend 4 mg in a well-absorbed form such as copper sebacate.
6. Kidney Support. When looking at a patient's blood work, check the BUN. When it is borderline high there is a good indication that the body is receiving protein in amounts it is unable to optimally metabolize. In the years to come, it is my hope that strong, safe alternatives to steroids will be developed and research on natural protectants will commense. References Rose: High fiber diet reduces serum estrogen concentration in premenopausal women. American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, 54: 1991. Whitaker: Health and Healing. 2(3): March 1992. Wright, G: Nutritional therapy for the 1990s. Seminar notes, Los Angeles, September 1991. I would like to give my special thanks to Stewart Zweikoft, D.C. for providing resource materials. Douglas Andersen, D.C. IP: Logged |
D007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 413) |
posted June 25, 2000 11:56 PM
Quality post WCP IP: Logged |
Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 847) |
posted June 26, 2000 12:06 AM
Thanks WCP ------------------ IP: Logged |
glenbenton Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 456) |
posted June 26, 2000 12:15 AM
saw palmetto is good stuff IP: Logged |
WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1132) |
posted June 26, 2000 12:47 AM
I liked the fact that he deals with many different aspects of A.S. From explaining how important high amounts of quality calories are, to liver and kidney protection etc.etc.etc. I figured someone would benefit from this. later, IP: Logged |
Terminator Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 12) |
posted June 26, 2000 07:07 AM
Good post, man. I use winny, and I take silymarin yet to protect my liver as best as I can. Furthermore I take SPA Pack what contains a lot of stuffs from this list. I recommend these stuffs for everyone who are on oral roids. ------------------ I'll be back! IP: Logged |
mokhtarsayed Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 92) |
posted June 26, 2000 07:39 AM
Definately important info, especially for someone doing a first cycle. IP: Logged |
Ice Man Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 370) |
posted June 26, 2000 10:55 AM
Awesome info as usual, WCP. Thanks. IP: Logged |
WCP Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1132) |
posted June 26, 2000 01:16 PM
I really hate doing this shit..but.... Bump!...for the guy who wants 25lbs on only 2500cal. a day.... Later, IP: Logged |
mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 238) |
posted June 26, 2000 01:26 PM
I would add to that. Niacin will raise good cholesterol, having low HDL has been my only side effect, so says the doctor. IP: Logged |
The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1224) |
posted June 26, 2000 02:49 PM
My....My....aren't we little Miss Susie Good Post today!!!!.....Heh heh heh....good shit Bro, Thanks!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
The Ranger Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1224) |
posted June 26, 2000 06:46 PM
Seeing as how you went through the trouble of posting it....I'll give it a BUMP...fer ya!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
Eramthgin Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 354) |
posted June 26, 2000 06:48 PM
bump IP: Logged |
DREXX Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 163) |
posted June 26, 2000 06:57 PM
good stuff But it seems like a shit load of stuff to take. Atleast we have the info of what we need. They should make a weider anabolic blocker megapack so we can just take a little bag full of good vitamins.
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ajc1977 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 79) |
posted June 26, 2000 07:11 PM
One of my workout partners is an asshole even when he's not on... He's not the brightest guy, so I told him to take Kava Kava three times a day to help enhance his gains. It works like a charm. No more Mr. Asshole IP: Logged |
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