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 didn't gain 1 FUCKING pound !!!!!!!
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RaverDude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:37 PM
  
I have been doing 600mg enanthate and 400mg deca per week for two weeks now. Thats 1000mg of high androgenic juice per week. I still haven't gained a fucking pound. Can the bros help me out? I feel like shit. I got everything I needed including clomid and nolvadex and I feel like I wasted all this money for nothing. When will the gains start showing (if ever)????
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RaverDude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:39 PM
Just for the record, the juice I am currently on is Brovel T-200 and Brovel Norandren 200. I am sure they are legit. <<<<<<<<<<EAT SLEEP LIFT>>>>>>>>>> IP: Logged |
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anibolism Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 41) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:42 PM
heres a dumb question, are you eating enough?theres a shitload of guys I know that think McDonalds is a good meal replacment. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Lqdmscle Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 98) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:44 PM
Do those bottles have "Brovel" engrave on the cap? If so, they are real. You might be losing fat and gaining muscle, thats why your weight remain the same. Don't worry too much on weight gain. Go by mirror. IP: Logged |
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bignate73 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 1047) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:48 PM
definitely i would say look at your diet. thats the main thing im tackling now before i start, just so i dont spin my wheels and waste my juice. try to get a good idea as to your protien intake and up it by maybe 50-100gms. not really trial and error, just tweaking, see how it works. if protein intake is good, see how your carb intake compares, are you eating clean? if so then you will need alot more carbs to offset the reduced fat. it takes quite a bit of carbs to add up. good thing most carbs are light. the thing i try to do to eat enough is get in the protein first, and then eat carbs after til im very full. that way you know you get the protein. i doubt its the juice, your #s are fine. water intake is good too? muscle is 70% water. IP: Logged |
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RaverDude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:51 PM
Thanx guys. I know what you are saying about fat loss and muscle gain, but I literally have no fat. The last time I measured it was like 5%. Every inch of my skin has veins popping out of it. The last cycle I did gave me 5 pounds the first 2 weeks, this one gave nothing. That other juice was persian Testosterone enanthate 250 in 1ml amps and this one is 200 so it is a tad bit weaker. But that shouldn't matter because I was doing 250mg /week on the last cycle and now I am doing 1000mg /week with 600mg of it being test. NO, Brovel is not engraved on the cap. But its got the hologram and all that shit and looks just like the picture on Conan's site. I got it from a trusted source, but I could be wrong about trusting him. Does the fact that it is not engraved with Brovel mean it is fake? I hope not. I guess the only other explanation is I am not eating enough. What do you guys think? <<<<<<<<<<EAT SLEEP LIFT>>>>>>>>>> [This message has been edited by RaverDude (edited June 24, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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RaverDude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:56 PM
bump...
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Lqdmscle Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 98) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:57 PM
This is just me ok. I can put on weight most of the time. But it is hard for me to put on pure muscle. Remember, quality muscle is hard to gain. Water and fat is so easy to put on. So, increasing you calories may increase weight, but what kind of weight? The last cycle you made gains. This cycle, your not going to make the same gain. If this is true, then people would be 500+lbs and bigger each year. If you are about 5% bodyfat, then your very lean. You'll have to decide which way you want to go. Stay lean and make slow QUALITY gain or bump up your calorie put on mass(some fat and some water). Just keep on doing everything right. It is a matter of time now. Assuming your training, diet and rest are where they should be. I one I have experience with is the brovel on the cap. Maybe the one you have is the newer one. [This message has been edited by Lqdmscle (edited June 24, 2000).] IP: Logged |
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Jay Z Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 847) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:58 PM
Bro test enanthate will take about 3 weeks to kick in...i know somebody that did a cycle just like yours and he only gained about 5lbs in 8 weeks. but his fat level was decreased and his benching was up like 25lbs and much stronger on anything else. So you might not eat enough to put on the extra pounds. The person i know ate regular (no extra cals to gain weight) so that's why he only went up like 5lbs. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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LEGEND Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 110) |
posted June 24, 2000 06:59 PM
2 weeks is not enough time to worry, i've been on duratest and norandran 200 for 4 weeks and only gained 8 lbs., but the mirror says otherwise, i feel good and definately look better then 8 lbs, so i'm not complaining. the fat loss theory is probably true cause my waist went down a size yet i gained 8 lbs, be patient and consistent and reevaluate your diet ......legend IP: Logged |
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Romeo Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 166) |
posted June 24, 2000 07:04 PM
MAKE SURE YOU GET ATLEAST 8 HOURS OF SLEEP PER NIGHT WHEN ON AS YOU NEED ALOT OF SLEEP..TO AID IN GROWTH... PLUS EATING EAT EAT EAT... PEACE ROMEO SOME PEOPLE CALL IT HEART IP: Logged |
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RaverDude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275) |
posted June 24, 2000 07:19 PM
Thanx bros. You guys are the best. So you are saying the Brovel is real even with no engravement on the cap? I dont want to slim down. I am already slim. I want as much mass and power as I can get. Now I am gonna make an omlette with 4 eggs and two nice fat sausages. Thanx again for the input.
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D007 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 413) |
posted June 24, 2000 07:20 PM
the new t200 does not have brovel laboratorios raised on the metal. It has a blue flipoff lid and plain metal ring around stopper. IP: Logged |
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RaverDude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275) |
posted June 24, 2000 07:23 PM
Thats eggg-zakt-leee like mine. Whoo-hoo, its real. So its gotta be the calories. Thanx for the juice wisdom iron brothers. <<<<<<<<<<EAT SLEEP LIFT>>>>>>>>>> IP: Logged |
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waltzman Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 136) |
posted June 24, 2000 08:25 PM
brovel sucks stay away IP: Logged |
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slabcat Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 87) |
posted June 24, 2000 08:56 PM
Not a flame just a thought. Are you training hard enough? What's your workout routine like? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Eramthgin Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 343) |
posted June 24, 2000 10:37 PM
I look at juice and gain weight of some kind. How sure are you that the stuff is legit? ------------------ If you enjoy it today you can always do it again tomorrow. IP: Logged |
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musclegear Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56) |
posted June 24, 2000 10:44 PM
There's something everyone is forgeting. He's only been on for 2 weeks. I hate to break it to you but it takes about 16 days just for decca to take effect, calm down and be patient, you should see some results shortly. The T200's half life is around 18 days as well. IP: Logged |
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GETCUT Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 231) |
posted June 24, 2000 11:41 PM
if you want more mass take sust250 and ref-b. oh, and drink alot of water while on this. i heard you will get alot of water retention but, i haven't seen much at all. i have a slim frame too and i don't have that puffy look like some get with this cycle. i must be pissing it all out with the water. IP: Logged |
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BigWh1tey Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 96) |
posted June 25, 2000 12:00 AM
EAT LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER IP: Logged |
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Pup'nIrn Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 131) |
posted June 25, 2000 08:40 AM
At 600mg of enath. test you would have gained at least fluid by now if it were real. Don't believe yu have good shit. Strength and water retention would be showing by now in most of the weeker gear by now much less test. IP: Logged |
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thiassi Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 705) |
posted June 25, 2000 08:47 AM
Get a good protien powder and start farting with pride. Eat more eggs, tuna, fish, steak etc... you get the picture. Also don't over train work each body part once or twice a week depending on how you feel. L8R ------------------ IP: Logged |
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mightydog Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 228) |
posted June 25, 2000 10:12 AM
B/F 5%? Most people have to work like hell to get it that low. You do lots of cardio and or work outside? IP: Logged |
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Curious Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 207) |
posted June 25, 2000 01:10 PM
I'm built pretty much like you raver dude. Low body fat--measured around 4.7 one time in a hydrostat. My first cycle of deca I had only gained two pounds after two weeks and my strength hadn't changed. About four weeks in I suddenly realized I had gained 9 pounds and my bench had gone up 25 pounds. I really hammered the protein and calories. Ate horribly at least in the eyes of the general public. A number 4 (double quarter pounder value meal) was part of my daily eating regimine. I also lifted really heavy and always tried to add weight at each work out. Don't give up...it will happen. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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2112 Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 9) |
posted June 25, 2000 01:24 PM
T-200 takes longer than a couple weeks for me IP: Logged |
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grasshopper Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 11) |
posted June 25, 2000 01:36 PM
I haven't done T200, but with primoteston I was making excellent size and strength gains within 10 days. So enanthate did not take 3 weeks to kick in for me. Also according to Bill Roberts article on esters, enanthate has a 4 to 6 day half life - not an 18 day half life: http://www.thinkmuscle.co.uk/exclusive/pharmacology/vol02/print/991213_print.htm IP: Logged |
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JamesBlondage Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 67) |
posted June 25, 2000 01:44 PM
I find when I am on the juice I have to eat alot....till I feel like puking...else the gains arent there. Food is the most important thing, and high calories a must, also it is impossible to keep those calories clean. So hamburgers, fries and the like are important...if you see Lee Priest in the off-season you'll notice he looks like shit, he is FAT! But is comes off fast and when he diets down he looks great. If you want the muscle mass you will need the fat too bro...I usually eat 10 eggs, only 1 or 2 yolks, loaded with mushrooms, onions, ham and cheese along with a shake for breakfast. then eat every 3 hours or so after that...it helps!! IP: Logged |
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KRKash Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 61) |
posted June 25, 2000 08:10 PM
You probably won't see the big results till like 4 weeks,don't mess with any ecstacy either while on roids I heard that it will screw your gains real bad IP: Logged |
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gettingtoobig Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 28) |
posted June 25, 2000 08:34 PM
what kind of lifting did u do? curling skateboard and getting narly doesn't help much dork!!!!!!!! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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LivinLarger Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 50) |
posted June 25, 2000 10:02 PM
I drink a gallon of skim milk with 8 scoops of my favorite whey protein powder every day. (spaced out of course) This gets me 350gms of High quality Protein with very little fat. At 5% you could use some calories for sure so you could go with 2% or whole to get the calories you need.This works great for me give it a shot milk is cheap! IP: Logged |
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RaverDude Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 275) |
posted June 26, 2000 12:33 AM
Thanx guys. This has been an interesting thread. To the guy who asked about training... I am probably the hardest lifter in my gym. My chest workout for example is on mondays: 4 sets flat bench press 4 sets incline db press 3 sets decline db press 2 supersets of incline flies 4 sets of cable crossovers, 2 with the bottom and 2 with the top. So you could say I train hard. Gonna keep waiting....
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T Bone Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 58) |
posted June 26, 2000 01:28 AM
gettingtoobig, Your reply was kida harsh dude. Where did that come from? RaverDude, I think you will be o.k. I'm on my second cycle of t200(800mg), nor200(400mg) and ref-b(2cc/day). I'm in my third week and only gained 5 lbs. Probably from the ref-b. I expect the t200 and nor200 to be kickin in soon. Same think happend last cycle. T Bone IP: Logged |
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Mr. T Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 511) |
posted June 26, 2000 11:17 AM
Personally, I think your doing too many sets. Also take in more protein, fat, and carbs-carbs-carbs. IP: Logged |
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