posted June 23, 2000 08:33 PM            

Also what dosages are good to use for Pyruvate when taking DNP, if it is good to use? I'm start DNP this coming week and I already have Pyruvate(collecting dust in my cabinet...LOL)! I'm also going to be taking glycerol while on this cycle, does anyone have anymore tips when taking DNP?

I really appreciate this bros!!!!

Thanks Bunches
~BM~

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posted June 23, 2000 08:41 PM            

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posted June 23, 2000 10:12 PM            

Glycerol dose. YOU ONLY NEED 1 TABLESPOON 3 TIMES A DAY! One in the morning,
one in the afternoon and one right before bed. Fuck that shit where those
idiot researchers tell you to take 1 gram for every kg bodyweight. They
are idiots and obviously have never taken it or asked the athletes how they
feel. Let me tell you, you feel like shit! You feel bloated and sometimes
get a headache and you piss A LOT! 1 tablespoon 3 times a day comes out
to ½ what they recommend to take 2 hours before an event. The glycerol keeps
your muscles hydrated and limits the sweating. It will fight the dehydrating
effects of the ECA. As we know, DNP is carbohydrate specific and glycerol
also is a carb source that can't go to fat. Glycerol also increases power
output which may be an added benefit of the type of carb source it is. (Don't
quote me or call me on this carb source because I don't really care what
you think. All I know is that it works and I don't have the time to look
up the frigin' mechanisms)

Before I explain the P, let me tell you that glycerol and glycerin are the
same damn thing! A good recipe for taking your glycerol is 1 packet of Kool-
aid, 1/8 cup sugar, 1 T glycerol and 32-4oz of water. The glycerol makes
the kool-aid taste like OJ because there are alcohols and fermentation products
in the OJ which the glycerol mimics.

Pyruvate dose. 2-5grams a day. Start out at 900mg or so 3 times a day and
go up from there. I am at 1.5mg 2-3 times a day and if you don't work your
way up it will give you gas and the runs.
As I mentioned above, I think the P is working synergistically to hold on
to the water in your muscles. Additionally, it is an energy source and/or
it is manipulating the Krebs Cycle intermediates (?) and allows for a different
energy production pathway without going through the whole rigamorole. (Again,
I don't care what you think or what the exact mechanisms are. I know it
changes/manipulates an ATP/energy pathway and decreases lactic acid output
and if it ain't the Krebs cycle I don't really give a fuck. It works.)

Now you have a recipe on how to feel good on an overdose of DNP! To recap
you need:
3 Tablespoons glycerol 3x a day.
1g Pyruvate 3x a day.
DNP at 36 hour intervals.
If you start to feel bad, just drink some sugared pop or take some glucose
or maltodextrin with your psuedo-OJ mix.
The only drawback is that you will still smell rather bad and will emit
a vinegar type odor although you won't be sweating all over everything.
If you notice you are starting to sweat more it is time for another glycerol
dose.

posted June 24, 2000 10:06 AM         

DNP is not nutrient specific. It uncouples mitochondria, which will cause both glucose and fatty acids to be used at a greater rate for ATP synthesis.

"Additionally, it is an energy source and/or
it is manipulating the Krebs Cycle intermediates (?) and allows for a different
energy production pathway without going through the whole rigamorole. (Again,
I don't care what you think or what the exact mechanisms are. I know it
changes/manipulates an ATP/energy pathway and decreases lactic acid output
and if it ain't the Krebs cycle I don't really give a fuck. It works.)"

Normally pyruvate would be a source for energy, since pyruvate enters Krebs as acetyl-CoA, but on DNP, there will be no more ATP produced than if one consumed carbs.

Animal posted that he recommended pyruvate because there is research showing radical scavenging activity in the eye.

posted June 24, 2000 04:22 PM            

Bump to the top, anything else more?

~BM~

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posted June 24, 2000 09:15 PM            

BTW, are there any other good supplements to take while on this DNP cycle?

~BM~

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