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code_x
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posted June 23, 2000 02:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
My father has been bodybuilding for some 20 odd years and truely loves the sport...He recently turned 52...he's having a harder time gaining muscle and keeping the fat off now...last night he asked me about gear...he really doesn't have the cash to go to one of those hormone replacement clinics...is there any chance I'd mess him up further by giving him a light anabolic say primo, or deca? Any suggestions or comments guys?-x

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SMALL
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posted June 23, 2000 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SMALL     Edit/Delete Message
give him test if he is not suffering from any illness....fuck i will crank till they burry me.....at 100 years old....done right this shit cant hurt you....d-bol would be fun to...strongest old guy in the gym ....cool

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TheBear
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posted June 23, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheBear   Click Here to Email TheBear     Edit/Delete Message
bump for a mods reply

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SMALL
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posted June 23, 2000 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SMALL     Edit/Delete Message
If your old man likes his wisky...I would lay off the d-bol...that might be too hard on the old guys liver

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ironmaster
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posted June 23, 2000 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ironmaster   Click Here to Email ironmaster     Edit/Delete Message
A light anabolic? He needs to break out the big guns. At 52, his natural production of testosterone and HGH is nil. That's why older men start to look like old men. Not this old man!! Put him on a gram of test a week with the primo and watch a total body transformation take place, assuming he is healthy enough to take it - no prostate disease etc. I speak from experience here.

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code_x
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posted June 23, 2000 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
thanks iron...I think I'm going to suggest a test eth. primo stack to him...I'm going to get pissed if he gets bigger than me however...-x

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ironmaster
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posted June 23, 2000 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ironmaster   Click Here to Email ironmaster     Edit/Delete Message
Watch out code_x, he might get real big if its his first cycle, and he knows how to lift. I am still one of the biggest guys in the gym.

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MattTheSkywalker
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posted June 23, 2000 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MattTheSkywalker   Click Here to Email MattTheSkywalker     Edit/Delete Message
Keep in mind that test replacements are often prescribed in older men...it is we younger ones who have to use "alternative means".

His test production is low at 52. But I would hold off on absolutely blasting him with test - just as a precaution. a 52 year old body may not be able to handle the things a 25 year old body can.

Start him on some test cyp, maybe 400mg a week. This will still bring his test levels far above normal even for a 20 year old.

I would let him decide from there based on how he feels if he wants to go up.

Also, he should still talk to a doc about hormone replacement. A doc will discuss it in detail with him, to help him know exactly what to expect.

Matt

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Jeff_rys
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posted June 23, 2000 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff_rys   Click Here to Email Jeff_rys     Edit/Delete Message
Primo will never hurt him (if his prostate is ok).
Primo and Deca are given to men and women when they are old or VERY old. But they do not get 400 mgr a week.
You also have to watch his blood pressure.
You should buy a BP meter.
I don't know for test. I never used it.
If he is not drinking alcohol, you can trow in some Winny.

It can be done you know, he can be in the shape of his live.
And no you will not be messing him up.

Jeff

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THESAINT
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posted June 23, 2000 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for THESAINT   Click Here to Email THESAINT     Edit/Delete Message
Gotta go with Matt. Start him on 400mgs/week of test.

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code_x
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posted June 23, 2000 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
thanks everyone...I think he's going to start a 10 week on 400mg test cyp. and add 200mg primo the last 4 weeks and 4 there after...I'm going to get him to join the board and post his progress.-x

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Eramthgin
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posted June 25, 2000 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eramthgin   Click Here to Email Eramthgin     Edit/Delete Message
Hell I'm 45 load up the darts.

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aahepp
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posted June 25, 2000 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aahepp   Click Here to Email aahepp     Edit/Delete Message
Only a joke but when your 6ft under I think its time to stop

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E2
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posted June 25, 2000 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for E2   Click Here to Email E2     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 54337564
Matt gave you some good advice, why not get his test levels tested, i'm sure the doc will do this no problem. Start out light, but you're never too old to be on the juice, when you're older in my eyes there are more reasons to be on. When i pass the big 50 i'm sure as hell gonna be on test all the time. Maybe even before that.

Just be careful of his liver etc.

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animal B
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posted June 25, 2000 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for animal B   Click Here to Email animal B     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with E2 , men go through menopause as well, believe or not, after 50 Ill be on test and GH always, but low levels, A 16 yo chick is the best way to feel young

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micke
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posted June 25, 2000 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for micke   Click Here to Email micke     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 74213838
ITS TRU E2

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