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Hercules
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posted June 23, 2000 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hercules   Click Here to Email Hercules     Edit/Delete Message
I know that in order for your receptors to recover from a cycle you should go off for as long as you went on for. My question is: If you take a year or more off of steroids and went back on, would it hit you as hard as a first cycle would. Just wondering cause thats a long time for them to recover.

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Mudworx
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posted June 23, 2000 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mudworx   Click Here to Email Mudworx     Edit/Delete Message
I went off for over a year after my first few cycles. My first cycle subsequent to my break was never as effective as my first.

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The_Blond_Myth
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posted June 23, 2000 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The_Blond_Myth   Click Here to Email The_Blond_Myth     Edit/Delete Message
If u stay off u will be back where u started, sure u can hold 225 lbs without gear, but it is unlikely u can hold 250, so if u stay off for that long u are taking too many steps backward. I don't believe in staying off for more than 4-5 weeks. The big guys 270-280 are on all the time, with very short breaks, if any.

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Hercules
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posted June 23, 2000 11:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hercules   Click Here to Email Hercules     Edit/Delete Message
I was wondering if you can react the same way as you did with your first cycle even though you have taken a year or so off. Does it matter at all how long you go off or are you never gonna get the same results as you did the first time.

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Decaman
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posted June 23, 2000 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with the Myth 4-5 weeks and back on

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Recoome
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posted June 23, 2000 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Recoome   Click Here to Email Recoome     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think any cycle will be effective as your first, when you were compeltetly natural. You may have gained great from 200mg of primo depot/week your first cycle, but after years of cycling, you can't respond to anything less than testosterone. Your receptors are negatively effected.

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300 kleen
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posted June 24, 2000 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
You will respond well, but not 100% like your first cycle, maybe 90% or 95%.

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giantset
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posted June 24, 2000 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for giantset   Click Here to Email giantset     Edit/Delete Message
Take a look at www.anabolicextreme.com back issue #9. There is an interesting article that argues against the theory of receptor downgrade.

Later,
giantset

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Juicer56
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posted June 24, 2000 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juicer56     Edit/Delete Message
yea check out that article...made me a changed man

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toby
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posted June 24, 2000 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for toby   Click Here to Email toby     Edit/Delete Message
According to everyone I have talked to there is nothing like your first cycle, no matter how long you are off. "That's when the magic happens."

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Want2BeHuge
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posted June 24, 2000 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Want2BeHuge   Click Here to Email Want2BeHuge     Edit/Delete Message
Unless there are major side effects on a cycle I try to be off only about 3-4 weeks. I do try to change what Im taking from cycle to cycle but being off for a yesr is like starting over. And as someone already posted a lot of the BIG guys stay on all the time and never really come off, I have a buddy that considers he's "OFF CYCLE" when he is only taking a weekly shot of 200mg of test.

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bgriff
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posted June 24, 2000 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bgriff   Click Here to Email bgriff     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 58153208
If you were as big as you wanted to get, couldn't you do a small maintenance cycle to keep the weight on??

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D007
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posted June 24, 2000 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for D007   Click Here to Email D007     Edit/Delete Message
Im on my first cycle after being off for 2 years. first time i went from 200-235 this time 210-240 only 5 weeks in so im getting about the same results as the first time after 2 years off.

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Hercules
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posted June 24, 2000 07:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hercules   Click Here to Email Hercules     Edit/Delete Message
Just like D007 said. After a long period of time off, I would think that your receptors would be fully cleaned and back to normal because they haven't been shocked in a long time. After a while when you go back on and shock them, I would figure that it would kinda be like the first time you went on and the gains would be the same.

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natedawg
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posted June 25, 2000 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for natedawg   Click Here to Email natedawg     Edit/Delete Message
Here's another article that will make you think twice about the receptor downgrading theory. http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exclusive/pharmacology/vol01/anabolic02.htm

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jersey boy
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posted June 26, 2000 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jersey boy   Click Here to Email jersey boy     Edit/Delete Message
Want2bHuge, tell yoiur friend that 200mg of test on an off cycle is hardly worth it considering that the body makes between 60 and 80 mg on it's own. Besides the 200 mg might not even be in the bottle/cc anyway. Take something that won't effect the negative feedback mechanism.

get big or get out

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