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madbomber31 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 403)	posted June 22, 2000 03:26 PM hmm, how to describe it... ok,when i reach out to shake somoenes hand, its the muscle on the top of the arm just below the elbow joint... it kills. been unable to train with weights for 6 weeks, i have NO insurance so i am fucked... i played tennis one day and it hurt the entire joint, not just that muscle... any ideas? i started icing finally, cuz it wasnt going away like i thought... i need this gone so i can regain my size... IP: Logged
charlie Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 213)	posted June 22, 2000 03:35 PM I used to suffer with this problem also! I could train through the pain but once i put the bar down that was when the pain kicked in. Mine just faded away and died. ------------------ *** K A R M A *** For every ACTION there is a REACTION ! IP: Logged
jdismukes Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 114)	posted June 22, 2000 03:38 PM Sounds like nerve damage, or could be a torn muscle. I would go to the doctor and do a payment plan. I do medical billing for a living and I set up payment plans all the time for my patients. IP: Logged
ThePitbull Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 257)	posted June 22, 2000 04:00 PM Sounds like it could be bad tendonitis. I had it in the same place in my left arm. Started using a neoprene wrap,& took it easy for a while & it went away. Now I have it on the inside of my right forearm, at the elbow. Won't go away, going to see an acupunturist to try that and laser treatment. Hopefully that works, Pitbull IP: Logged
SMALL Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 52)	posted June 22, 2000 04:06 PM I HAVE A SIMILAR PROBLEM ONCE IN A WHILE...TO MAKE IT GO AWAY I JUST REST...TO PREVENT IT I USE FLEX ALL 454...OR BLUE ICE RUB....REALY HURTS AFTER BACK DAY...ANNY HEAVY PULLING...BOTH ELBOWS IP: Logged
Buzzsaw Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 28)	posted June 22, 2000 04:14 PM I have had this several times before. The best remedy is to rest. It usually takes a couple of weeks to heal up, but that is better than working out and prolonging the recovery time. I feel for you Bro that shit is a pain in the ass. Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz IP: Logged
Dorian Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 18)	posted June 22, 2000 04:36 PM It culd be tendonitis, and if it is at the top of the forearm it's propably tennis elbow. I had it a while back. Went to a doc and he gave me special strapping, went away pretty soon IP: Logged
goleafs Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 353)	posted June 22, 2000 04:44 PM well , its not a hairline... its likely tendonities and beleive it or not , tennis elbow can be felt all the way down your forearm...buy one of the forearm bands. you can buy them at most department stores for like 50 prunes. they help a ton IP: Logged
Samuel Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 137)	posted June 22, 2000 04:48 PM Same thing happened to me bro. When you squeeze something it kills. I never went to the doctor, I just took a few days off. It still hurt but I worked through it it and it went away on it's own. Still not sure how I did it, maybe at work. It does suck though. It will definitly affect your workout, sorry man. ------------------ So much juice, so little time!! IP: Logged
Grip Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 121)	posted June 22, 2000 11:30 PM Called Lateral epicondylitis aka tennis elbow. A hyperextension injury of the wrist and forearnm. 6 weeks to heal. Stretch it, and cut down on the jerking off...or use the other hand. Take it easy in the gym on all upper body, hit your lower body hard and give youself time to recuperate. Ice it and just be patient. Fuck tennis and all extracurricular activiteis other than the gym!! IP: Logged
krzysiu013 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 213)	posted June 23, 2000 01:03 AM tendonitis??? chris ------------------ 6 gauge in my tongue, 22 gauge in my ass... IP: Logged
aahthit Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 152)	posted June 23, 2000 02:32 AM These bro's are on the money. Yo krzysiu, all that means is an inflammation of the tendon. (Any affliction with an "itis" usually means inflammation of something.) Beat the shit out of your legs while you're laying off the upper body. Here's a wild idea while it's healing. Get ahold of some glucosamine sulfate. It takes about 6 weeks to notice a difference, but that shit helped out my hip. (Damn, does that make me sound like an old bitch or what?) I know some guys here would say to hit the nubain or some other bullshit, but that's like ignoring the fire alarm when you're sleeping. Tendon's are hard to replace once they snap! IP: Logged
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 286)	posted June 23, 2000 03:03 AM If it's out the outside of the elbow it is a tennis elbow, if ii's on the inside it's a golf elbow. But even if it's a golf elbow that doesn't mean it won't hurt playing tennis. I have tendonitis (golf elbow) already for 15 years. Even stopped training for 5 years and restarting, well it came back in a week. So you could tape your elbow (I always do that, otherwise training is out of the question), you will not be able to put too much stress on the forearm muscle. If it just happened you could rest for 4-6 weeks, but it still can come back. Train around the injury (after your rest period), put ice on it whenever you feel anything. Nobody can help you with this one, except an operation, but I passed for that. What happens is: you put much stress on the forearm and your muscles get shorter. They pull on your wrist tendons and your elbow tendons. If the tendons are not strong enough or flexible enough the stress goes to the connection on the bone. It will thicken (imflammation) and you have your tendonitis. If you get this real bad you cannot get your arm straight, if you put your arm on a table your fingers will not touch it (in my case there is a space of 4 inch). Jeff ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged
scott825 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 376)	posted June 23, 2000 03:52 AM I have this exact same pain,it especially hurts when I do any pulling exercises like back or bi's. cant stop training cause im on right now & dont want to fuck up my gains. IP: Logged
ironmaster Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 174)	posted June 23, 2000 05:16 AM I have the same. Been fighting it for months. All of the above are good answers, but try rubbing DMSO on the ares several times a day, and before training ( with a forearm wrap). Throw in some fina, what the hell. A horse trainer friend suggested this to me - they inject the horses in the tendon & joint area before races. I am much less sore now. IP: Logged
WSMin5yrs Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 12)	posted June 23, 2000 10:28 AM Damn ironmaster, you just beat me. The DMSO is the greatest product on the face of the Earth, but one thing, add in some powdered aspirin. Sprinkle the aspirin on the sore spot and use the DMSO to rub it in. The pain will be gone in 15-30 minutes - but thats only if it is tendonitis. It works, good luck. IP: Logged
Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 644)	posted June 23, 2000 12:30 PM I was going to post on this last night. Heres what happens: I get the pain so bad, especially when just starting the exercise and after letting go, its like shooting pains all from my elbow down to almost my wrist, with the worst part in the middle. The area is hard to explain: if you are sitting at a desk and give the thumbs up sign (thumbs pointing straight up, with bottom of fist and elbow both flat on the desk - its the area on the surface in between the wrist and elbow. These aggrevate it: Forget straightbar curls - This messes me up bad. EZ BAR - not as bad but now know I cant do them. Close Grip Bench-NOPE Wieghted Dips-maybe if I let it heal and this is all I do, not any of the above exercise. Regular bench even hurt yesterday. It was so bad last night that it hurt grabbing the 2.5lbs waits and sliding them onto the bar, hurt when I was simply holding my cup to drink protein, hurt anytime I try to pull a door open. I hate to be long winded but this shit is no joke and is affecting my workouts so bad. I know rest heals it but WTF? Why is this happening? Am I expected to take out my core mass building lifts from my bicepts? Are there any CURES? Or is it just temporary aids? PLEASE HELP ANYONE, E2,MATT,2THICK,all MODS, and ANYONE ON THE BOARD WHO CAN HELP ME WITH SOME MORE INFO ON THIS CRAP. Please reply or e-mail or anything. Slopain [This message has been edited by Slopain (edited June 23, 2000).] IP: Logged
krzysiu013 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 213)	posted June 23, 2000 12:36 PM hehe sorry for the confusion, i know what tendonitis is. i just used the question marks implying a guess to my opinion on the problem. ill be more clear in the future. chris IP: Logged
krzysiu013 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 213)	posted June 23, 2000 12:38 PM also, to my understanding, rest then proper form are the only way to help it. some people even have others watch them so mistakes in form can be pointed out. i know its a pain, but BOY does it hurt if you get it! ------------------ 6 gauge in my tongue, 22 gauge in my ass... IP: Logged
Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 644)	posted June 23, 2000 12:41 PM Form is not my problem. I am very strict on form and dont watch how many plates are doing as much as my form and feal. Rest is obviously an answer but it is a weak answer for lifters, I cant rest and still get big. Slopain IP: Logged
Jeff_rys Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 286)	posted June 23, 2000 04:19 PM it seems to me you are doing (or want to do all the wrong excercises. 1) straigth bar is a nono 2) EZ-bar the same, certainly for the tri's 3) close grip bench again nono. Besides this put extra stress on the wrists. You should for the biceps work with dumbells and if possible EZ bar (maybe not right now). For triceps do lying French curls with loose dumbells. Again your dumbs should be pointing at your face. So the stress goes to the center of the tri's. Tape your elbows 2 inches before the point where it hurts. You also should be able to do lying French curls, but REVERSED grip, with a straight bar, so the outside triceps get the stress. And weighed dips should be possible. I do all these exercices without pain. But again, maybe you should take a break for a few weeks, before training again. DO not do any forearm training. And cut down on your sets on tri's and bi's for a while. I don't know for DMSO, maybe it will help. Do not take something that only kills the pain. Jeff ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short IP: Logged
madbomber31 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 403)	posted June 23, 2000 04:50 PM ok, back to me now i guessed tendons at first too... tennis elbow i dont think so, due to the fact that its my forearm that has the pain. i first noticed it after back day i think.. then triceps... THAT WAS SIX WEEKS AGO... i have not been able to train since... killing me, down 20 lbs, i am only 223 now. i have no clue what to do... the doc is out of the question, i just cannot afford it. this sucks, no way around it... but remember, its the top muscle in my forearm that hurts. IP: Logged
Slopain Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 644)	posted June 23, 2000 06:39 PM Thank you Jeff, I think I might be able to handle the dips and MAYBE the ez curl, but I already know close grip was a big mistake. Slopain IP: Logged
jersey boy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43)	posted June 23, 2000 06:59 PM madbomber31, here's the scoop. Lateral epi-don't think so. That would be more of a problem with the extensors of the forarm, particularly, the extensor carpi radialis longus and brevis. The problem you are describing is more in tune with the brachioradialis muscle. The larger of the muscle bellies on top of the forarm with the arm resting on a table top. My comrade in training,I would suggest two things #1, if you tore this muscle then seek out someone who has access to an ultrasound machine or #2 increase all anabolics and your protein to record high levels. By the way you have just visited a Doctor. get big or get out IP: Logged
DocJ Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 49)	posted June 24, 2000 12:19 AM bump...that's your second opinion, hehe. ------------------ "Life is too short to have 18" arms." IP: Logged
musclegear Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 56)	posted June 24, 2000 12:38 AM I had the same pain, hurt like hell and scared the shit out of me. It felt exactly like shin splints. I didn't train upper body for about two months, iced it down every day, and used DMSO with asprin. I haven't had the pain since. IP: Logged
madbomber31 Pro Bodybuilder (Total posts: 403)	posted June 24, 2000 05:04 PM hey jersey boy... first off... FLYER FAN HERE besides the point... if you were in my position, would you still train? IP: Logged
jersey boy Amateur Bodybuilder (Total posts: 43)	posted June 25, 2000 07:32 PM mb31, sorry I haven't been around to reply. You didn't mention whether or not you had any bruising or some sort of muscle belly shortening. If so, there is a serious tear involved. You can live with it, and eventually train, however if that is the case you will always be predisposed towards injury in that area. If not, I would try the advice I gave. Try to keep the muscle stretched. After injury, the body compensates by swelling and shortening the muscle to prevent further injury. Unfortunately, most feel if they can pick up the weight they used to use then they are o.k.-NOT the case. Use some sort of heating agent prior to training, stretch religiously before during and after the workout and ice in a stretched position when done. Too bad you weren't closer to MN I could have helped you out. get big or get out. IP: Logged

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