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rookiejuicer
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posted June 22, 2000 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rookiejuicer   Click Here to Email rookiejuicer     Edit/Delete Message
I have gotten an average of about 4 hours of sleep per night since I started my cycle.. I am on 500mg per week sus. and am having the toughest time sleeping... I am dreaming a lot and waking up sweating and shit... anyone else have the same problem?

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DRRman
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posted June 22, 2000 03:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DRRman     Edit/Delete Message
yeh bro, i've experienced the same shit, the dreams can be pretty fucked up sometimes huh. Anyways, i try to live with it, if i absolutely can't get any sleep, i'll pop a valium or something to get me gone!!

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300 kleen
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posted June 22, 2000 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 300 kleen   Click Here to Email 300 kleen     Edit/Delete Message
Try Tylenol PM...it works for me.

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charlie
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posted June 22, 2000 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 70980501
hashish seems to do the job for me!

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BigCatratcho
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posted June 22, 2000 04:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigCatratcho   Click Here to Email BigCatratcho     Edit/Delete Message
Melatonin is my sleep aid of choice

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Slopain
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posted June 22, 2000 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
GHB Come on bro you need your sleep get some GHB and at least 3 nights a week you can enjoy 8 hours of sleep that will feal like 16 hours of perfect sleep. No problems waking up. You can save all that other crap that 'sometimes' works for the other 4 days, and they often leave your groggy in the morning. I have been doing the G for a while Mon, Tues, Thurs. I wish I would have had it during my last bulk cycle (which had sus250. But I rest assured knowing I will get good sleep next big cycle(which will have sus250). Good luck bro.

Slopain

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Want2BeHuge
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posted June 22, 2000 05:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Want2BeHuge   Click Here to Email Want2BeHuge     Edit/Delete Message
Not being able to sleep and sweating are two fo the side effects I always experience when on Sus. I just live with it. While I don't like these side effects it does show me that the "gear" is working.

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Slopain
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posted June 22, 2000 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Slopain   Click Here to Email Slopain     Edit/Delete Message
Forgot to mention, GHB will not help you with the sweats, I doubt you will sweat more, but if you take it while off cycle you will sweat a little, not that you know it because your too busy SLEEPING.
One more thing I take it a round 10 wake up at 2:30 and have to take another little dose. But actually, at 2:30 I feel so much better on G than I do waking up at 6:00 without it.

Slopain

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goleafs
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posted June 22, 2000 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goleafs   Click Here to Email goleafs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64961519
have the same prob. i went to the doc and he gave me some diazepam. the shit is great. pop a pill and youre out like a light. oh yeah , and the dreams arent as lucid.

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Androl
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posted June 22, 2000 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Androl   Click Here to Email Androl     Edit/Delete Message
Does Omna has the same effect on the sleep ?

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Puc
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posted June 22, 2000 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Puc   Click Here to Email Puc     Edit/Delete Message
Thoughts...

diazepam = valium. That can be addicting.

GHB/GBL/1,4-B helps

two Tylenol PM = one extra strength Unisom (chemically, as a sleep aid)

My personal preference is L-Tryptophan (or 5-HTP) AND 1 Extra-Strength Unisom.

Puc

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xtreemrush
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posted June 22, 2000 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for xtreemrush   Click Here to Email xtreemrush     Edit/Delete Message
try Klonipin...it is mild and you sleep well...kinda groggy in the morning though.

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code_x
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posted June 22, 2000 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
on my current sus cycle I'm tired all the fucking time but I still can't sleep...I'm going into week number 5...last night I did a 500mg shot and my dreams were fucking nuts! When I woke up I was still seeing shit from my dream that wasn't there! Never got that form just test...-x

[This message has been edited by code_x (edited June 22, 2000).]

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gamer
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posted June 22, 2000 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gamer   Click Here to Email gamer     Edit/Delete Message
For sure GHB is the way to go. It will leave you feeling fresh in the morning instead of that tired groggy feel other sleep aids give you. Besides you get to enjoy a nice pleasant buzz before you nod off which is cool considering you shouldn't be drinking while on cycle. Try this and you won't be sorry. Make sure you have a dose ready by your bed or you'lle end up wide awake at about 2:30 am. Good luck!

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code_x
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posted June 22, 2000 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for code_x   Click Here to Email code_x     Edit/Delete Message
ghb...make sure yours is made from potassium hydroxide...if it's made from sodium hydroxide I hold water like shit!!! The next morning I'll have like an extra pound of water on my face yuck...if you don't know the difference you can tell as the sodium version has a salty bitter taste...the potassium has little or no taste-x

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BigT
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posted June 22, 2000 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BigT   Click Here to Email BigT     Edit/Delete Message
Just wondering.....why does Sust cause fucked up dreams? I have never used it, but have used other test with no problems, and you guys say only Sust will do this....just wondering which ester is responsible for this.

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remedy
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posted June 22, 2000 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for remedy   Click Here to Email remedy     Edit/Delete Message
bump

im curious to hear more.. gonna do sust for my first cycle in a few months. i'm sensitive to sleep and dreams. i value my fuckin sleep.

remedy

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Hercules
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posted June 22, 2000 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hercules   Click Here to Email Hercules     Edit/Delete Message
I would try the Melatonin if you don't wanna do the GHB. Other than that I heard that Z-Mass by Cytodyne Technologies works really great. I'm not too sure if you can mix the two together but look into it, I think it would help you with your problem.

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pizza man
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posted June 22, 2000 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pizza man   Click Here to Email pizza man     Edit/Delete Message
go to wall-mart its over the counter in a blue and white box its called (EQUATE NIGHTTIME SLEEP AID) it has diphenhydramine 16 tablets for $1.27 , Please try it, i,v been on it for 4 years. One at nightime ,do not take 2 you will be sleeping all day. Pat

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goleafs
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posted June 22, 2000 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goleafs   Click Here to Email goleafs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64961519
i bet its cause of the four different tests in sus. i know the dreams youre talking about. its like eating a g of shrooms then going to bed.

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the rock
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posted June 22, 2000 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the rock   Click Here to Email the rock     Edit/Delete Message
im on sust also and cant sleep for the life of me. i get so hot at night that i cant sleep and when i do sleep i get the fucked up dreams and wake up in night sweats. i think not sleeping is limiting my growth im in my 6th week and only gained about 4 pounds.-this sucks-

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goleafs
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posted June 22, 2000 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goleafs   Click Here to Email goleafs     Edit/Delete Message UIN: 64961519
4 lbs...you ended up with some bunk sus

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remedy
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posted June 22, 2000 10:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for remedy   Click Here to Email remedy     Edit/Delete Message
Fuck all of this talk about terrible dreams and no sleep is turning me off of wanting to do sust. Dammit!!! I will have to get a shitload of valiums to get me through my cycle i guess.

remedy

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lexicon
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posted June 22, 2000 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexicon   Click Here to Email lexicon     Edit/Delete Message
I think having trouble sleeping is just about the worst side effect of Sust and AS in general. The mild sleep aids (melatonin, valerian root, other otc drugs) are great but just don't cut it most of the time. BZ's (valium,xanex,klonapin) work great but are bad news for your body. I guessa low dose of valium isn't that bad a few times weekly. I've had both good and bad experiences with GHB and it also seems to have it's share of bad luggage. I guess this is just a problem we must deal with...

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devildogg
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posted June 23, 2000 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for devildogg   Click Here to Email devildogg     Edit/Delete Message
maybe its just me but I sort of enjoy the fucked up dreams. I'm on 500 sust a week, and my dreams have definitely been fucked for a while now. Usually when I wake up in the morning it takes me a while to come back to reality. I guess maybe I'm a little fucked in the head because it seems as though I'm the only other one that sort of enjoys them. Well I must get to bed now, my dreams are awaiting.

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rookiejuicer
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posted June 23, 2000 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rookiejuicer   Click Here to Email rookiejuicer     Edit/Delete Message
last night was the first night of good sleep. I have to find some GHB though. I think the only reason I slept well last night was because today is my next shot of 500mg sus. and the dreams and fucked up sleep will begin again. Is GHB legal in the U.S. and where do you people get it?

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HeavyLifterX
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posted June 23, 2000 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HeavyLifterX   Click Here to Email HeavyLifterX     Edit/Delete Message
No sir, GHB is not legal in the US. You can get it though, just be careful.

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pup
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posted June 23, 2000 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pup   Click Here to Email pup     Edit/Delete Message
melatonin does the trick for me...... without it i woudnt sleep at all on sust.

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Bowflex
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posted June 23, 2000 11:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bowflex   Click Here to Email Bowflex     Edit/Delete Message
Does anyone use anything more herbal (kava kava, valerian...)?

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Brutis
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posted June 23, 2000 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brutis   Click Here to Email Brutis     Edit/Delete Message
Damn, reading all these responses is putting me to sleep. Good night guys. ZZZZZZZZZ

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Decaman
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posted June 23, 2000 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Decaman   Click Here to Email Decaman     Edit/Delete Message
I feel your pain bro- I only sleep about 2 hours wake up then sleep for another two, by then I gotta get up for work, funny thing though, I am never tired, i still wanna sleep though, we all need pour rest. I'm gonna buy a coffin and try that.

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